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ZeitgeistObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:46 AM
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America is angry
America is angry
Apr 13, 2010 by Nicholas Kohler


Late last week, as families across the U.S. prepared for Easter, gubernatorial staff in state capitals across the U.S. were busy dealing with a strange homegrown security threat. An organization calling itself the Guardians of the Free Republics, according to its website committed to the “behind-the-scenes peaceful” dismantling of the U.S. government “without controversy, violence or civil war,” had sent letters to all 50 governors telling them to resign within three days or face removal. The demand was part of a “Restore America Plan,” launched, said the group on its website, after “consultation with high-ranking members of the United States armed forces.”

Part of a “sovereign citizenship” fringe in the U.S. that repudiates government and such modern realities as taxes, the Guardians of the Free Republics argues that “illicit corporations” usurped the U.S. federal government in 1933, and refers to the Internal Revenue Service as a “foreign bank cartel.” Its plan seeks a fundamentalist return to the American constitution and an end to both the “foreclosure nightmare” and the horrors of Department of Motor Vehicles registration, which the group refers to as a “hijacking of automobile ownership.” While FBI investigators said they did not believe the letters themselves were threatening, they did worry the group’s anti-government message might spur others to violence.

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While Tea Partiers are overwhelmingly white (88 per cent, according to the Quinnipiac poll), more than 50 per cent are women, and more than a quarter have completed post-secondary education. “If I were to sort of try and put them down on the psychologist’s couch and get inside their psyches a little bit, my sense is that this is a group of people that’s just frightened to death by what they view as monumental changes that are taking place,” says political scientist Marc Hetherington. “These people must be looking at a world that is changing so fast, and it’s dizzying to them and in ways that are very disturbing.”

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Then a friend told her that the lowest rung of elected office within both the Republican and Democratic parties—often called the precinct level, depending on the state—“is where we actually decide who gets put on the ballot” by electing local party leadership. Dawald looked into the situation at her local Republican precinct and found that over half the committee positions stood open—a dearth of local participation that holds true across the country for both parties.
“I signed up myself!” Dawald says, standing outside the Tea Party Express bus in Nashville. She adds that Tea Party activists across the U.S. have done the same, and that she knows of some precincts where Tea Partiers have taken total control. “We believe that can be done for the Democratic party, too,” she says, before describing her state of mind as she took up politics.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/04/13/america-is-angry/
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:52 AM
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1. good luck to these awholes
they need it and they need a lot of it.

Ship of Fools! :rofl:

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:57 AM
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2. I can explain the dearth of participation at the precinct level
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 11:57 AM by Warpy
in the Democratic Party and that is years of being told at the precinct level that your efforts were not needed, just write a check and don't let the door hit ya.

As for the anger at the rapid change, the rapidest change they've gone through is Delay crowing about a permanent GOP majority in early 2005 to the GOP being out of power and completely disgraced four years later. It must have been a pretty dizzying descent.

Don't forget that, while they might have a liberal arts degree of some description, these are not likely the kind of people to read widely or in depth.

All this stuff sets them up to be suckers for hate radio, and hate radio is the real problem here.

The worst of them will be acting out and they will be violent. Unfortunately, a fairly high level government official will have to be murdered before the government sees that this is a problem and starts to take on the horrible situation a corrupt media have caused.
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ZeitgeistObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:01 PM
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4. The precinct level part is what concerned me.
I've read about the threats and wild statements on here as they happened, but now Teabaggers seem determined to take over the Democratic party as well, so I figured I'd better post it.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:14 PM
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16. As long as most precincts are being run as petty fiefdoms
we've got nothing to worry about.

What discouraged the participation of rank and file Democrats will now discourage the Baggers.

In any case, I think most committed Democrats at the precinct level won't be fooled by these people for long.
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ZeitgeistObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:16 PM
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17. Thank you.
Our local levels are 'petty fiefdoms' too. Seems to be a common occurance no matter what the country.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:24 PM
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9. i can vouch for that. turned away twice when i tried to volunteer. phone calls never answered.
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ZeitgeistObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:28 PM
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10. So will the tea-baggers get in? n/t
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:11 PM
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15. I am a precinct committeeman, and I was until recently
a county chairman. I never turned away anyone who had a solid record as a Democratic voter.

However, I discovered that in my county organization, there were members of the old guard who acted as gatekeepers. If they didn't want someone in, efforts were made to freeze them out. I had friends, solid Democrats and union members, who were made to feel so unwelcome that they stopped coming to events.

I did fine for about seven years. That was only because I worked my ass off, and so did the rest of my family. But I rocked the boat when I fought openly with a popular committeeman. I disagreed with her, and felt I had a right to do so. I had earned my place, and she had not.

I will stay on as a precinct committeeman. I will continue to do my work for Democrats in my precinct, and in this county. If nothing else, I will do my best to make them uncomfortable about their behavior.

In the near future, I will be doing new jobs for the Democratic party in this region and state. I have enough friends that there will always be work for me. Being bitter would be stupid and unhealthy for me.

I would urge you to consider other grassroots activities if your county organizations are corrupt or inbred. There is room for all of us.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:00 PM
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3. I believe they are angry,
but not about anything documented above. They are angry at the black socialist in the White House, period. I'll allow that a VERY small percentage (1-2% MAYBE) is upset for legitimate reasons, but the rest? I don't think so. Where were they from 2000-2008? Their man got us into the horrible mess - illegal war, tax breaks for the wealthiest 2%, millions were added to the poverty rolls - we were circling the drain. All I ever heard from the repukes is how great things were.

If they actually walked the walk - cancel their Medicare and Medicaid benefits, call the fire and police departments and tell them not to ever respond to an emergency, withdraw their kids from school, stop driving on the highways - then, and only then, will I believe they worry about us becoming a socialist state.

Finally, they will always be teabaggers to me. They named themselves that, I find it very fitting, indeed.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:03 PM
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5. The Teabaggers will never admit their real motivation is racism.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:19 PM
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8. agree
that is what is behind this "MOVEMENT" = RACISM. :puke:

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:05 PM
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6. This really is disturbing stuff. These people are crazies being led on by
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 12:08 PM by LakeSamish706
lunatics like Limbaugh, Palin, and others.

And I almost left out the craziest one of them all Michele Bachmann.
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ZeitgeistObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:17 PM
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7. Dangerous for sure.
I'm sure a lot of it is racism, but losing jobs and homes really puts people over the brink as well. And there are no end of opportunists to take advantage of those feelings.

I just read where Palin has made $12 million since July alone.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:30 PM
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11. America is nuts
I think it may be senile dementia.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:36 PM
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12. They're afraid of a fast changing world?
Well they didn't seem to mind all the changes in the last 20 years, right up until a Black man became president. Then the changes are suddenly "disturbing". Gimme a break.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:39 PM
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13. WTF?
I like how they say, over 50% are women and 25% have more than a high school diploma (except they call it "post secondary"). Are they trying to tell us that women can't be racist and stupid? Are they saying that after high school suddenly you aren't prone to stupid ideas?

What "monumental" changes have taken place in this country?

These people may be angry, but they are angry like children get angry when their toy is taken away after they have misused it and had been warned about the consequences.
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ZeitgeistObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:59 PM
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14. I was thinking more of the damage they could do
rather than they 'why' of it, but I can think of a lot of monumental changes that have taken place in the US.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:24 PM
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18. "more than a quarter have completed post-secondary education" That means 25.000000000000001% to 100%
I think I'll go with the former.
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