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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:23 PM
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Do government bureaucracies still exist? Corporate ones do.
I'm trying to think of the last time I had a problem with a government bureaucracy. I really can't think of one in the last few years. But I have run into corporate ones frequently. Phone jails, service calls routed to India, etc. That happens a lot.

I remember a relatively conservative friend crankily griping about "bureaucracy" about twenty years ago. I still hear the same gripes, the same old DMV jokes today, but they now seem quaint and utterly ridiculous. The bureaucracy bogeyman hasn't boogah-boogahed anyone in a long time. What are these people talking about?

I recently had a problem where Dell sold me the wrong extended warranty for a new TV. It was a soul-rending nightmare trying to get the problem resolved. Suffice to say I will never be able to listen to the song "Lollipop" again without a seizure.

I also recently had to apply for a city permit to get my driveway excavated. Utterly pleasant. Bunch of smiles, relatively low price considering I will be digging up my driveway right up to the public street and so forth... Give me that any day.

The "gasp, gasp, gasp bureaucracy" of the GOP is looking more and more to me like WMDs, death panels, socialism, etc. A bunch of chicken little hooey.
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Budgies Revenge Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:50 PM
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1. I can't speak for others and their experience, but
I got to spend the entire day today sitting in the DMV with my sister while they tried to "work her in" for a driving test. Unfortunately, they weren't able to work her in, so I get to take her back on Thursday morning to try the whole thing all over again.
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rve300 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:09 AM
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2. From my experience any joke about the DMV is still very relevant.
Buying a house with my VA loan made an awful experience even worse.

Getting my FBI background check for my immigration to Australia took 16 weeks.

I had a friend who went to the Harris county court house in Houston to pay a restitution payment and was thrown on jail for the weekend because they wrongly thought he was 2 payments behind. He had to call his wife to come and get his daughter who was with him. On Monday when the judge determined that he had in fact paid on time. He told him they would get it all worked out as soon as they could and then they put him BACK IN JAIL for 6 more hours while they fixed their paperwork mistake.

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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:12 AM
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3. I've had great experiences with government 'bureaucracies'.
The line for the DMV? Two people, or at most three. Called about a problem with the sidewalk in front of our house. It was fixed in two days.

Now, business experience has been much, much worse. Large corporations don't give a fuck about anybody except their fat bottom lines. I'd much rather have the government run things that soulless corporations that don't answer to ANYBODY.
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Dank Nugs Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:44 AM
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6. If this is true, then he should be able to file a suit..
Okay. It's a mistake, but to put him back in jail for 6 hours while they fixed their paperwork mistake? Isn't that like an illegal arrest and a violation of constitutional rights?
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rve300 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:00 AM
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7. It has been 10 years since that happened....
And I don't know think he tried to sue anybody. But I remember thinking to myself, if I ever in my life need to go down and pay a fine of any kind in person. I will do it early on a Monday and never late on a Friday.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:17 AM
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4. LOLZ!!!
""Do government bureaucracies still exist?""

can you say Homeland Security? The biggest bureaucratic increase in the nations history.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:18 AM
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5. And also the most outsourced to private corporations.
nt
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