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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 11:01 AM
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Stephen Colbert interviews the WikiLeaks guy
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 11:25 AM by NJmaverick
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 11:07 AM
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1. Uh....
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 11:31 AM by Hell Hath No Fury
Do you really "get" Stephen Colbert??

On edit: It appeared to me that Colbert was hammering him in a way that allowed his guest to completely refute his critics.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:54 PM
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11. Maybe towards the end of the interview, but I thought he seemed a little...aggressive
at the start.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:03 PM
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14. I agree he really went after him --
But Colbert does tend to do that -- I have ssem him ask a hard question knowing what the answer is going to be. His questions about it being propaganda allowed the Wiki guy to address that, as well as his pushing about the "firefight" which allowd the Wiki guy to tell he had documentation it really hadn't happened after all.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:27 PM
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20. People who survive a tough round of Colbert questions usually end up looking good
Last night's interview was a good example of that.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 11:16 AM
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2. TikiLeaks?
You mean the website about secret Polynesian-themed parties?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 11:18 AM
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4. ...
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 11:17 AM
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3. Please donate to the satire impaired
Obliviousness is bliss
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:11 PM
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5. I get a sense that Colbert admires what he did and is doing. So do I.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:44 PM
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6. I got the exact opposite impression...
Of course I think that what Colbert said was spot on. The guy was honest about it as well. He took the larger video, edited it to promote a certain view point and named it "collateralmurder.com" to promote his political view. The guy is an ass but surprisingly open about it.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:48 PM
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7. He also said that he viewed what happened as "collateral murder", as I do.
And, IMO, as Colbert did.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:50 PM
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9. Colbert drew the guy out into a frank admission that he produces propaganda, which is OK
There is nothing wrong with bluntly expressing your opinion through media.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:24 PM
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17. I don't think anything is wrong with propaganda inherently
The original meaning was, of course, getting your message out effectively and memorably. The problem arises when a) your message isn't worth getting out and b) your methods aren't worth using. I get exercised when really worthwhile messages (war is bad, killing wounded and injuring kids while waging war is fucked up bullshit, "insurgency is fungible" is an assumption the Army should change, why the hell are we over there anyway) get undercut with an inattention to the facts and a dedication to hyperbole.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:53 PM
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10. I didn't...it was a weird interview. He kind of came down hard on the guy for titling the video
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 12:55 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
with a slant. He eased up at the end of the interview and went back to his Colbert stuff "I think people shouldn't know things" etc.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:56 PM
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12. It was more than just the title...
It was the admission that the video was edited (cutting parts that don't support the editors view and highlighting those that do) for the emotional response that the guy wanted.

Again, its not the fact that he did it but that he would admit to it so openly that surprised me.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:59 PM
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13. Once he admitted that, I felt Colbert reassumed his character.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:25 PM
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18. I didn't get a "sense". I know that Colbert admires Assange. Period.
It was a brilliant interview and allowed Assange a platform to explain it all.

I love Stephen.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 09:42 PM
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26. This thread is an example...
of people seeing what they want to see.

Those who consider themselves "in the know" enough to realize that Colbert is playing a character can see whatever they want. Whenever they agree with what he says then he is being sly and working it in as part of his schtick. If they disagree with what he says then he is being sly to lure the guest into an admission or give him a front to refute him.

Stephen Colbert, whatever you want him to be.

In other words you all are making it up. Colbert was clearly in character at the beginning and end of the interview and not the middle where Assange admitted to manipulating the information. The poster upthread was right though. Once he got that, surprsing, admission he jumped back into schtick.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:48 PM
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8. I saw that interview and enjoyed it a lot
You get a sense Colbert doesn't like this guy or what he did

I suggest watching Colbert more often.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:11 PM
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15. Kudos to Colbert
Colbert is such a master at what he does. Feigns outrage then draws the information he wants out. Good interview.

Jon Stewart was hilarious and Rachel Maddow talks about her upcoming special on McVeigh
http://www.thedailyshow.com/
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:23 PM
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16. Do you have a single clue about who Stephen Cobert is and what he does? He masterfully
exposed the "collateral murder" and drew out all of the facts and how real they were from Assange so there would be No Doubt of the validity of the leak.

Thank you for posting and giving Assange a voice.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:51 PM
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21. That's pretty impressive, you got ever single one of your assumptions wrong
that's very difficult to do.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:53 PM
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22. Sorry for assuming, but your judgement in regard to this interview is just plain wrong.
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 01:54 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:57 PM
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25. Yeah...I watch every Colbert episode (in fact I'm going to see him live tomorrow)
and I also thought he was acting weird with the guy up until the guy bluntly stated that he did intend to get as much media attention as possible through titling.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:25 PM
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19. Colbert edited the video!!!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:33 PM
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24. OMC what a dumb post!
er um, I mean OMG! what a dumb post!
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