Poll: Obama Beats Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, Palin — Got Anyone Else?

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Posted by booman at 10:00 am
April 14, 2010 21

Poll: Obama Beats Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, Palin — Got Anyone Else?
This post originally appeared on the Booman Tribune.


Polls this far out from the 2012 presidential election mean very little, but it’s instructive to look at what CNN found in the current state of play:



Obama beat McCain 52.9% to 45.7%, or about exactly the same drubbing he’s predicted to give to Mitt Romney. The anticipated destruction of a Palin candidacy begins to approach the the 58.8%-40.6% beatdown that St. Ronnie administered to Walter Mondale in 1984.

If Obama actually won 55% or more of the popular vote, he’d probably have very significant coattails. And I think we need to remind ourselves that these numbers are coming in the context of a pretty negative overall public attitude to the Democrats as a whole. Some recent polling has showed a congressional ballot preference for the Republicans and (some) net-negative ratings for Obama’s job approval. We have to wonder how Palin would fare against a resurgent president and Democratic Party. I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine a Reagan-Mondale style blowout.

It’s an odd political climate. It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen before.


http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/14/poll-obama-beats-romney-huckabee-gingrich-palin-got-anyone-else/

and it's only going to get worse for them as Obama's Presidency moves along with tremendous success.

I posted this yesterday and found out today their was no joefisherman in democratic forum, now i re-registered and am told i need to reply to a few posts to be able to start a thread.
sarha who? poor turn out
Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 12:48 PM EST


Well if you listen to the media it was a large turnout? do the math -the city has 590,000 thousand residents; the day time this can swell to a million easy! their are 6.5 million people from the state;their is 14.5 million people in new England! the first news reports said their was close to 3,000 turn out to see MS squeaky voice! give her the benefit of the doubt swell it by 3+ call it 10,000 no tell it like the repukes exaggerate call it 20,000- you still got a pitiful turnout! less than one half of a percent! Of those who attended at least 20% opposed the hatred these people display! Oh by the way can someone suggest to that squeaking money grubber that she looks disgusting in that cheap red jacket!(who wants a former vice president candidate looking like a street walker)

all I can say is Scot Brown is smarter than I an many others gave him credit for!
so I figured I'd try again and see what happens!
fire up ! fire up! yes we did and won! fire up!

has joined the Tea Party and Obama wouldn't get a single vote.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Obama is managing in the most trying of times to hold on to his 2008 election support. There isn't a Repub out there who would give him much of a challenge at this point. Assuming the economy starts showing steady solid growth he will be unbeatable.

Sometimes I believe Huckabee is too lazy to seek the presidency. He doesn't seem edgy and ambitious the way a Republican needs to seem if he or she is interested in winning the nom. Or he may want the job but not see a clean and easy way to win the nom and so he's torn between gratifying his political ego and staying on at FOX making the big distortion bucks. In any case he's a rightwing kook with some serious asterisks to his candidacy if he decides to jump in. Under the white-hot glare of national scrutiny, Huckabee could turn into a slobbering wolfman and start darting around the FOX News set on all fours. That's pretty much how he behaves now, come to think of it.

Romney has asterisks too. He's very mechanical. There's more than a hint of NIxon's soullessness in Romney. He behaves like someone who doesn't have any idea what to do all day so he decides to use his massive personal fortune to run for the White House. The fundie nutbags aren't really into Mormons, though, and it puts Romney on the defensive right out of the gate. There are a lot of sources from his stint as Governor of Massachusetts which will be another set of difficulties for him with the fundie nutbag demographic. Romney wants to be Zorro. But to be Zorro you have to be as least as smart as Zorro's horse.

Palin is both soulless and brainless, not exactly a rare combination in Republicans but one which makes her easy to defeat in the GOP primaries. She is not only stupid but explosively stupid. I think she's already decided to run as a "rogue" independent on the night of the Iowa caucus. Whoever does win there that night would naturally count on the morning's headlines the next day for celeb momentum but Palin could steal those headlines with a press conference at say, 09:30 p.m. Central to declare her plans to head a rogue moron ticket. It makes her the It girl yet again and robs say, Huckabee, of the luster of victory. In the long-term it splits the Puke vote somethin' fierce going into the general election.

After those three, the Puke menu offers very tasteless broth.

Their nomination in 2012 will be someone that can appear as a moderate. I think it'll be McDonnell, or Pawlenty, or Pence.

puking at that thought.

I'll join you in puking. :puke:

Luckily, the last 2 weeks is showing us that McDonnell is a pr nightmare.

a well-dressed throw-back to plantation days and somebody on his staff needs to update the man's file.

But frankly, that Palin could get 42% is pretty damn frightening.

Oh please oh please oh please oh please....

continue to allow psychopaths into their control room.

I'm trying to imagine a John Chafee or a Chuck Percy walking into the Republican Senate caucus this afternoon, wondering, 'Who are all these crazy-asses and how did they get into the U.S. Senate?' Not even Olympia Snowe, supposedly a "moderate" Republican, did anything other than grab a few headlines during the health legislation debate, and even then for just a short while before her genuflection to the rightwing groupthink.

In order to win a Puke primary, a candidate has to appeal to a big percentage of fundie nutbags who want the Ten Commandmants in public schools and scientists to be sent to death camps AND to the amorphous Bagger anger folks, who are allegedly smarter than the anti-science group but who evidently aren't smart enough to use proper spelling for their anger signs at their anger events. It's my personal belief that the Baggers' anger has its roots in racism. I don't know how to clinically demonstrate that connection or in what percentage, but I sense it in their anger as a primary ingredient.

Young people of voting age in 2008 went for Obama over McCain without regard for the candidates' skin color or military service record, and their blue vote related in part to their rejection of the fundie nutbags' anti-science rants. They aren't angry at Obama because he is black; they like him whether he's black or not, and that is a huge problem for the Republican Party. If the GOP is going to survive it is going to have to find a formula that stops the bleeding of its former moderation in the days of Percy and John Chafee. But getting the psychopaths away from the control panel is going to be a messy operation. If they expect a future role in national life they're going to have to stop doing things that repel and disgust voters, and for that, some serious surgery is required. Dr. Snowe is no longer taking patients, unfortunately, and after her, there's a sharp drop off into ideological oblivion.

If they can't sling the hash they're gonna have to sell the diner.

..........when you allow the inmates to run the asylum. I'm quite certain that there are Republicans out there right now who DON'T sound like the raving lunatic on the street corner, wearing rags, shouting unintelligibly, and having conversations with the voices in his head. I'm also quite certain that 99% of Republican voters wouldn't recognize their names. When you make the Special Education Team the stars of your Party, it should come as no surprise that you're gonna get slaughtered in 2012.

I've been predicting it for several months now. If the Republicans can't field anybody better than what is out there right now, Obama will win re-election without even breaking a sweat. And if they nominate Sarah Failin, Obama will give her a beat-down that would make Walter Mondale chuckle. I bet Sarah Failin wouldn't even be able to get triple-digit electoral votes. Of course, she'd probably also quit a few months into the campaign........