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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:11 PM
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"Every appointed Supreme Court judge since 1971 has been more conservative than his/her predecessor
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 01:15 PM by Better Believe It
“Including myself, every judge who has been appointed to the Court since Lewis Powell <1971> has been more conservative than his or her predecessor.”
U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens

Weekend Edition
April 16-18, 2010

This Will be Obama's Legacy
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
and JEFFREY ST. CLAIR


Stevens, the last protestant on the high court, described himself as a conservative, and in one sense he was, because he tried to preserve the spirit of the progressive Warren court through the decades-long swing of the court toward the right, both among the Republican nominees and the ones put up by Clinton (Breyer and Ginsburg) and by Obama (Sotomayor). As Stevens himself has said to law professor Jeffrey Rosen, “Including myself, every judge who has been appointed to the Court since Lewis Powell <1971> has been more conservative than his or her predecessor.”

As Obama and his counselors ponder potential nominees, the air is filled with counsel that Obama should avoid a protracted fight and should pick “a moderate” – i.e., pro-business, pro-government – nominee, like Elena Kagan, 49, now solicitor general and in earlier years head of the Harvard Law School, where she hired Jack Goldsmith, head of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Bush administration, where he was intimately tied to the torture and detainee abuse scandals. He's Harvard's version of John Yoo. Before that, Kagan served as Clinton’s deputy domestic policy advisor, in which capacity she oversaw, among other assignments, welfare “reform.” One of her colleagues at the White House at that time was Christopher Edley, now the Dean at Boalt, the law school at UC Berkeley. Edley says of Kagan that her politics were “center to center right.”

In the Clinton administration, Kagan helped formulate the Democratic equivalent of what became, in the subsequent W. Bush years, the assertion of unitary executive power. There’s zero evidence that Kagan would do anything to redress the right-wing tilt of the Court and plenty that she might exacerbate it, in the areas of executive power, civil liberties, and assertion of presidential war powers. In her confirmation hearings as solicitor general, she so entranced the right with her proclamations in favor of the War on Terror, indefinite detention, and against any pursuit of war crimes investigations, that Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota) said, “it sounded like she was getting a standing ovation from the Federalist Society.”

Who could the left put up, as an assertion of what a truly progressive justice might look like? How about Steven Bright, of the Southern Center for Human Rights, the country’s leading anti-Death Penalty litigator from Kentucky? Or, David Cole, professor of law at Georgetown? Or, Pamela Carlan, at Stanford, a former counsel for the NAACP and openly gay? Or, Jonathan Turley, at George Washington, who is particularly strong on civil liberties and the environment? Turley defended Sami al-Arian, the Rocky Flats workers, attacked warrantless wiretapping. Or, within the administration, Harold Koh, Korean American and one of the principle legal appointments of the torture policies of the Bush years? Koh was originally a Reagan appointee to the Office of Legal Counsel. Turley says Koh is the closest we have to Justice Brandeis.

There’s one more name that has been nervously circulated among progressive circles, that of Elizabeth Warren, currently head of the Congressional Oversight Panel on the banking bailout. Warren originally hails from Oklahoma and a professor at Harvard Law School. Warren is as close as we can now get to Stevens’ economic populism and has been eloquent on the topic of corporate skullduggery and on the pro-bank tilt of the bailout. She would, actually, be a shrewd choice for Obama, because it would turn the Supreme Court confirmation hearings into a debate on economic justice, consumer protection and regulation of Wall Street where Warren’s Republican opponents be forced to take the side of the rich, at a moment when the rich are not popular with a large number of Americans.

Don’t hold your breath.

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04162010.html
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:16 PM
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1. Jack Goldsmith is nothing like John Yoo.
More crap from Counterpunch, one of the worst zines on the planet.

Nine months later, in June 2004, Goldsmith resigned. Although he refused to discuss his resignation at the time, he had led a small group of administration lawyers in a behind-the-scenes revolt against what he considered the constitutional excesses of the legal policies embraced by his White House superiors in the war on terror. During his first weeks on the job, Goldsmith had discovered that the Office of Legal Counsel had written two legal opinions — both drafted by Goldsmith’s friend Yoo, who served as a deputy in the office — about the authority of the executive branch to conduct coercive interrogations. Goldsmith considered these opinions, now known as the “torture memos,” to be tendentious, overly broad and legally flawed, and he fought to change them. He also found himself challenging the White House on a variety of other issues, ranging from surveillance to the trial of suspected terrorists. His efforts succeeded in bringing the Bush administration somewhat closer to what Goldsmith considered the rule of law — although at considerable cost to Goldsmith himself. By the end of his tenure, he was worn out. “I was disgusted with the whole process and fed up and exhausted,” he told me recently.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/magazine/09rosen.html
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:09 PM
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10. Still, we do not want Elena Kagan.
End of that nominee. Goldsmith isn't being considered.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:19 PM
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2. Clearly America is more conservative than liberal overall
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 01:20 PM by stray cat
and progressives that qualify as progressives to most DUers are a limited minority who somehow thinks they are dominant....
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:23 PM
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4. Bullshit.
That's a corporate media lie (as best exemplified by that crap the NY Times published about the "well educated" teabaggers recently)
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:52 PM
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7. I don't agree. That's what the right-wing and corporate media would like us to think.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:00 PM
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9. When people are polled as to how they label themselves you appear to be correct.
When they are polled on specific issues and policies you appear to be quite mistaken.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:14 PM
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13. That is why the electorate
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 02:16 PM by Enthusiast
overwhelmingly elected Democrats in 2006 and 2008 because they mistakingly thought Democrats were conservatives?

This is right wing talking points nonsense designed to justify moving the court and the nation further to the right. If anything the nation is more socially liberal than ever.

You want to talk fiscally? In the last two decades the American consumer became the all time champion spend thrifts, far worse, even, than their government.

What about the American people is now more conservative than years gone by? They are less unionized. Give me something else.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:17 PM
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20. Oh Really?
The MAJORITY of ALL Americans (Democrats & Republicans) are much MORE Liberal than the Democratic Party Leadership, especially when polled on the issues.
"In recent polls (2005!) by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic Party:

1. 65 percent (of ALL Americans, Democrats AND Republicans) say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

http://alternet.org/story/29788/


*A SuperMajority of ALL Americans supported the Expansion of Medicare/Public Option.
LESS than 33% supported MANDATES without a Public Option

*A LARGE Majority OPPOSED the Great Wall Street Bailouts.

*A VAST Majority support Transparent, Verifiable Elections. (No Black Box Voting)

*A MAJORITY oppose expanding the WAR in Afghanistan

Americans are not nearly as "Conservative" and "Big Business/Corporate Friendly" as you (and the DLC) would like them to be.


"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."

--- Paul Wellstone



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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:00 PM
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21. More evidence the people are moving to the right!

Just kidding.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:31 PM
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25. That is a Big Lie purpetuated by the Corporate Media, the DLC, and the Right Wing Culture Warriors.
Most people support liberal policy positions, they just consider themselves "conservative" because of MSM brainwashing.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:32 PM
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26. Don't fall for the troll bait, folks.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 05:32 PM by Lyric
If there was ever a post meant to make people angry without saying anything much of substance--that one's it.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:21 PM
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3. I'm beginning to think Harold Koh might be the way to go this time.
He's definitely a better choice than Kagan by far. And being a Reagan appointee, there's no way the Repukes can oppose him. If he was good enough for their false Messiah, how could they make a case against him?

Elizabeth Warren needs to be at Treasury, and Timmy the Elf needs to be back at the North Pole.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:33 PM
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27. "Timmy the Elf" DUZY!!!
:rofl:
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:24 PM
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5. I see you've got a new pet issue to bitch about. Alot of good that did you with your last one...
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:54 PM
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8. You don't have an opinion on the posted comments? If not, why did you post here?

Just to engage in a personal attack rather than civil discussion?
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 03:55 PM
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18. you wouldn't know civility if it bit you in the ass
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:06 PM
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19. You're going on ignore for personal attacks and disruption of civil debate and discussion.

Bye, bye.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:42 PM
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6. that says it all. Obama has to do better.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:11 PM
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11. We've been sliding right for a long time.
Notice how cap and trade used to be a Republican counter to real emissions regulation? Notice how the HCR bill resembles nothing more than the Dole compromise? Yeah.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:20 PM
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14. But only legislatively.
It has been wholesale surrender by so-called liberal legislators. The massive wave of deregulation, the HCR bill and Iraq War being good examples.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:14 PM
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12. I do like Warren
She just says it like it is.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:21 PM
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15. This says it in a nutshell:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:34 PM
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28. Great Picture, I'm stealing it!!!
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:40 PM
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16. K&R
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:48 PM
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17. I cannot agree with Jonathan Turley's
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 02:49 PM by Enthusiast
interpretation of Citizens United v FEC. Besides he thought Ken Star was correct in PERSECUTING President Clinton. So he is OUT!
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:17 PM
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22. Spiro Agnew, disgraced Nixon VP who resigned, said this:
"This country is going to move so far to the right you won't recognize it."

Spiro Agnew, 1969.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:28 PM
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23. For Sunday DU'ers
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:29 PM
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24. We have slid so far right that NIXON would be a "Liberal".
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