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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:56 PM
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The Kennedy/Johnson push into space was in part the result of mental illness

The sickness of course was nationalism. The world today spends $44B on it's space programs. There is no reason to have programs, it should be one program with all of humanity working together. I love that President Obama is using more international cooperation with the space program but it would be much better if the end was giving up our (US) space program to a world space program.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_agencies
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:59 PM
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1. just seems short sighted to give up the human need for exploration
to save a few bucks in a very huge world economy.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:00 PM
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2. I didn't say anything about giving up exploration.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:04 PM
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3. Competition is mental illness?
We really are doomed then.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:04 PM
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4. Nationalism is.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:22 PM
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18. But it has lead to international collaboration
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 08:25 PM by lunatica
That argument fails big time. And Nationalism definitely isn't mental illness. It's just ignorance and belief in propaganda. Both of which can be fixed without any psychiatry or drugs involved.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:07 PM
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Oh for Christs sake
Of all the things for people to complain about the Government spending money on. I hate this place sometimes.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:09 PM
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6. The US government would still contribute to a world space program.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:11 PM
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9. we currently do, with the ISS. have you been huffing paint thinner?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:13 PM
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13. I have not "huffing" anything, whatever that means. The idea is to give up all the national
programs and make them all into one.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:20 PM
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16. .
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 08:23 PM by Alexander
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:20 PM
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17. .
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 08:22 PM by dionysus
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:22 PM
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19. Would the US contribute more $ or less $ to this international space agency and its research?
I'd also like to ask, because I am totally ignorant about the contents of the book itself; does the DSM IV list nationalism as a mental illness?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:43 PM
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23. It would defund the agency whenever a member nation did something it didn't like. (nt)
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:07 PM
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5. I see you took your idealism pill today.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:11 PM
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7. i don't drink with you.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:11 PM
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10. That is something you never have to worry about.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:18 PM
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15. i'm shattered
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:11 PM
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8. I think we can have both
I wish we'd spend more on these kinds of cooperative efforts as a means of breaking down cultural barriers so the expenditure on war becomes unnecessary. I like where he's going with the space program and I do think it's time to give the idea of space tourism a commercial opportunity.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:12 PM
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11. Just curious, where were you in 1960? eom
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:13 PM
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12. I thought it was the quest for knowledge.
:shrug:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:13 PM
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14. I typed, "in part"
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:26 PM
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20. Oh, I see. That changes everything.










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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:33 PM
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21. fear ...
... isn't always a sign of mental illness.

Remember we were only a very few years away from the kick-in-the-gut that was Sputnik. Our manned space program was just barely out of "total failure" mode and years behind the Russians. And we were seriously in the darkest days of the cold war.

Folks were very concerned that the Soviets might claim the moon as a military base.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:38 PM
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22. I wonder where "believing everything I disagree with is a psych problem" fits in the DSM. (nt)
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 08:38 PM by Posteritatis
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