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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:14 PM
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Conservatives Want to Go Back to the Golden Age of the 1880s
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Posted by devilstower at 11:30 am
April 18, 2010

Conservatives Want to Go Back to the Golden Age of the 1880s


It took the Republican Party sixty years of dedicated effort to make the word “liberal” radioactive in some parts of the United States. In less than half that time they’ve also done a pretty good job of making “Republican” just as disliked, associated as it is with the politics of wretched excess, fetishizing ignorance, bowing to K street lobbyists, and diaper-wearing-toe-tapping-lesbian-bondage sexual hypocrisy.

So lately conservatives, and especially the most hard right wing of conservatives, have been on the lookout for other terms they can use rather than the dreaded “R” word when describing themselves. Some of them have jumped on board the Glenn Beck self-promotion tour. Considering that it’s an artificial movement generated around a cheap media persona, declaring yourself a supporter of the Tea Party is a bit like being a proud member of a Monkees Fan Club (and you don’t even get to hear “Last Train to Clarksville”), but hey, it plays better than being a part of the George W. Bush legacy.


Other conservatives have jumped in a different direction and declared that they’re really “small government Libertarians.” Only they don’t seem to understand what Libertarian actually means. Take for example this article in which Jacob Hornberger anoints 1880 as the peak of America’s Libertarian golden age.

Let’s consider, say, the year 1880. Here was a society in which people were free to keep everything they earned, because there was no income tax. They were also free to decide what to do with their own money—spend it, save it, invest it, donate it, or whatever. People were generally free to engage in occupations and professions without a license or permit. There were few federal economic regulations and regulatory agencies. No Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, bailouts, or so-called stimulus plans. No IRS. No Departments of Education, Energy, Agriculture, Commerce, and Labor. No EPA and OSHA. No Federal Reserve. No drug laws. Few systems of public schooling. No immigration controls. No federal minimum-wage laws or price controls. A monetary system based on gold and silver coins rather than paper money. No slavery. No CIA. No FBI. No torture or cruel or unusual punishments. No renditions. No overseas military empire. No military-industrial complex.

As a libertarian, as far as I’m concerned, that’s a society that is pretty darned golden.


Ah, the 1880s. I can hear people getting wistful from here. ...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/18/conservatives-want-to-go-back-to-the-golden-age-of-the-1880s/




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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:17 PM
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1. Naaah,the 1950's would do.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:24 PM
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4. Except for that little matter of marginal tax rates....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:20 PM
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2. Between 1880 and 1930, an estimated 2,400 black men, women, and children were killed by lynch mobs.
-- LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:23 PM
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3. I think they would prefer the years just prior to the big crash of 1929.
No rules. No regulations. No taxes. No labor laws, including no child labor laws. No vote for women. No health standards.
No unions. No vacations. No sick days.
No Social Security. No Medicare. No Medicaid. Lots of poor houses. "If you don't come to work Sunday, don't come to work Monday!"

It was HEAVEN for the Conservative millionaires who ran the country. They got so pissed at FDR, they tried to knock him out of office!!
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:31 PM
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6. And hey, those millionaire really knew how to unwind:

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:28 PM
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5. a segregated, impoverished, mostly illiterate society where only white men could vote
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 08:30 PM by Ken Burch
And the average life expectancy for those white males who had the vote was 40.5 years.

"pretty darned golden"?

:puke:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:42 PM
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7. so does the supreme court....
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:42 PM
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8. My masters paper was etnitled: Gilded Again: Extreme Inequality in Our Time
One of the Chapters was : Gilded Before in which the word "gilded" is interchangeable with "screwed"
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:57 PM
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9. Actually, the Reaganites wanted to go back to the guilded age.
The neo-cons and teavolken want to go back to the dark ages of the 1300's where there are only two classes, land owners and serfs.
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