apples and oranges

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:12 PM
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I get really nervous when the light turns red and a Toyota is behind me

Anybody else feel uncomfortable around Toyotas?

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tridim

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:14 PM
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1. I worry about as much as I worry about being struck by lightning on a sunny day.

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hobbit709

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:45 PM
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22. +100

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Juneboarder

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:13 PM
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+1000

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chemp

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:23 PM
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42. Fear & Respect

There are not enough Americans who tremble when i drive by in my Prius.
I can accelerate without notice!

FEAR ME!

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xultar

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:14 PM
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2. If the driver is cute I don't care how they are rollin.

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here_is_to_hope

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:24 PM
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43. +1000! n/t

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SocialistLez

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:14 PM
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3. Nice to see I'm not alone

I guess there is a silver lining to be totaling my 2005 Corolla.

My step-dad however has a 2009 Toyota truck.

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hamsterjill

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:15 PM
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4. Yeah, I'm aware of them.

I find that I'm more aware of Toyotas these days. Just makes good sense to me. I also watch out for Dodge Neons!

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LynneSin

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:16 PM
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5. I could be driving and I have a lead foot

Actually my Toyota was not a part of this mess.

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:17 PM
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6. No, and I drive one.

Any car's brakes are stronger than the engine. Hold the brake pedal all the way down, then rev up the engine. You will burn out your clutch plate if a standard transmission, or blow your transmission if an automatic. But the car won't move; assuming the brakes are working properly.

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snooper2

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:18 PM
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7. you should get more nervous when this person is behind you

or a Kia

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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ellie

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:29 PM
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12. How about

Mr. Change Your Pants While Driving? He is Public Enemy #1.

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dmallind

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:19 PM
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8. No because few of us are dishonestly motivated loons

Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 02:19 PM by dmallind

And most of us csn do basic math.

You also worried about a Ford bursting into flames when it pulls up next to you? Largest recall by far and with a higher incidenr rate than Toyota's, so to be intellectually honest you should be afraid of either both or none. To be intellectually honest and rational, it should be none.

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Kalyke

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:32 PM
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15. The OP should be scared of something that was happening nearly a

decade ago?

I'm sorry, but it's not intellectually dishonest to worry about something happening now as opposed to something that happened in 2001 and has been more than fixed.

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dmallind

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:52 PM
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23. See - the facts are not even known!

Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 02:56 PM by dmallind

This recall - the largest ever - only STARTED in 2008 and is still ongoing...... was even expanded by another 4.5M cars just a few months ago

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/total-recall-ten-largest-auto-recalls-of-all-time/2008_ford_escape_ext_1/

http://wot.motortrend.com/6595833/auto-news/ford-extends-largest-ever-recall-by-45-million-vehicles/index.html

More cars involved. More complaints. More incidences.

It certainly IS intellectually dishonest to try and argue strawmen too BTW.

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JuniperLea

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:52 PM
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52. I find it very interesting that EVERYONE knows EVERYTHING about the Toyota recalls...

But are utterly ignorant about the dozens of other recalls and issues going on right now. Seems fishy to me... not that I think Toyota isn't culpable! Not in the least! But there should be parity!

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Juneboarder

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:15 PM
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35. The Ford Recall

Is a current recall...

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FSogol

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:26 PM
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9. Did you insult an old gypsy woman driving a Toyota?

:shrug:

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Kalyke

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:27 PM
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10. I've found myself worrying, as well.

But mostly, I just sit there and wonder what kind of person buys products that destroy American unions when they have a choice not to do so.

:shrug:

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spanone

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:28 PM
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11. no. worry about the teabagger who might be behind you.

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Lyric

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:30 PM
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13. Yep. We don't have a car but we live *right* along one of the main roads in our town.

I admit, it makes me nervous whenever I'm standing out on the sidewalk waiting to walk my son across the street from his bus stop and a Toyota comes around the curve. I worry that they won't be able to stop for the bus. :(

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NoGOPZone

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:32 PM
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14. Shouldn't you be more worried when the light turns green? nt

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apples and oranges

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:14 PM
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34. At least if the light is green, I can speed up and change lanes

to get away from any accelerating toyotas.

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Liberal_in_LA

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:35 PM
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16. no, I drive one. Never had a problem.

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prole_for_peace

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:17 PM
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38. Ditto

I love my Toyota. I have had three GM cars before this car but I really enjoy driving my Corolla more.

I am more worried about the jackass in front, behind or to the side of me who is either talking or texting on their cellphone

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Soylent Brice

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:36 PM
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17. you again?

:popcorn:

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OneTenthofOnePercent

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:37 PM
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Other makers of cars have experienced MORE unintended acceleration incidents than Toyota.

Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 02:39 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent

Your fears are driven by hype and emotion as well as being irrationally unfounded. Worrying about your own car and driving defensively will go much further to ensure your safety than worrying about the mfg emblem or bumper stickers on another car.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/204869-Ford-Chrysler-others-experienced-unintended-acceleration-more-than-Toyota-National-Highway-Traffic-Safety-Administration-analysis-comes-under-scrutiny

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ellenfl

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:37 PM
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18. i get really nervous in my toyota when the light turns red

Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 02:37 PM by ellenfl

and a cadillac is behind me driven by a senior citizen who can barely see over the steering wheel!

i haven't given a toyota following me any thought. i'm more nervous about people who zoom up to the stoplight, regardless of the car they are driving. of course, my toyota is 15 years old so being rear-ended might get me a newer one. :shrug:

ellen fl

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JuniperLea

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:38 PM
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19. Nope... I live 12 miles from their main So Cal processing facility...

And know dozens of union families who have survived because of Toyota, so I have mixed feelings... however, I'm not one to "feel" this way or that based solely on what other people tell me I should feel, and I certainly don't go in for media paranoia, so this issue gets two strikes with me.

No more afraid than I am when a giant Ford, Chevy, Hummer, or other SUV comes barreling up behind me. Most people don't have a clue as to how to drive an SUV and what makes it different than driving a car... that scares the hell out of me.

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celtics23

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:41 PM
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20. Agreed

I get worried when one is anywhere near me. Realistically, given that they tried to cover up the problem, I will not ever buy a toyota again.

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marybourg

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:42 PM
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21. Not so subtle propaganda which will never convince me to

ever buy a GM, Ford or Chrysler pproduct again ( have had 48 years of driving experience). I don't blame autoworkers for the poor quality of those vehicles, but I won't put my safety and finances on the line to help them. sorry.

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Soulis

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:54 PM
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24. LOL!

:nuke:

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MindPilot

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Mon Apr-19-10 02:59 PM
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25. We here at DU so frequently accuse the right of fear-mongering.

It's good to see we are just as capable of being afraid of shit that has near-infinitesimal odds of happening.

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apples and oranges

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:16 PM
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36. How is it fear mongering when everyday I see a new headline

about defective Toyotas?

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MindPilot

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:44 PM
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48. Because only a tiny percentage of defects actually manifest themselves as failures.

And an ever smaller percentage of those result in crashes. Then the chances of the crash happening to you are slim-to-none.

Yes the defects need to be fixed, but worrying that you are going to fall victim to one is just not healthy.

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BlooInBloo

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:17 PM
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37. Stupidity knows no party.

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B Calm

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:00 PM
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26. Hell yes!

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taught_me_patience

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:04 PM
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27. You should probably be more worried about getting struck by lightning

But if you want to live your life in fear... go ahead.

Do anyone else feel uncomfortable around clouds?

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alc

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:06 PM
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28. I ride a motorcycle

I get nervous when I see a cell phone, newspaper, makeup, food, teenager, etc. behind me. I've never thought of being nervous because of a Toyota. Now that you brought it up I'm considering the statistics, and still not nervous. The chances of being hit by a faulty Toyota is almost nothing compared to the chances of getting hit for other reasons.

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Fumesucker

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:09 PM
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29. I've been hit from behind three times in my life..

None of them were Toyotas.

My son in law was just hit from behind a week or so ago, in fact he just got the car back from the shop this afternoon, the vehicle that hit him was a Suburban driven by a 17 year old girl who was going too fast and couldn't stop in time.

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apples and oranges

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:13 PM
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32. TMI...

JOKING!

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Dreamer Tatum

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:11 PM
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30. I've been rear-ended by three American cars in my lifetime

So I get VERY edgy whenever one of those Detroit death machines pulls up behind me. I know how you feel.

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Stevenmarc

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:12 PM
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31. No I'm more afraid of skittish drivers over involved with their Toyota paranoia

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Brickbat

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:13 PM
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33. No, I just get mad.

Generally, Toyota owners piss me off.

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Warren Stupidity

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:19 PM
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39. Just on the way to work today I saw 147 toyota pile-ups!

Only I didn't go to work today. But if I had, I;m pretty sure that is what I would have seen.

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Rebubula

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:19 PM
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40. LOLZ

Living in fear is just another way of dying before your time.

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apples and oranges

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:22 PM
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41. I had no idea that so many Toyota/Corporate apologists resided on DU

Toyota is a PERFECTLY SAFE vehicle. The people who have crashed are all faking it! :sarcasm: :eyes:

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Fumesucker

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:34 PM
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46. Frankly, people who are watching the rear view mirror closely enough..

To know what kind of car is behind them scare me far more than ten thousand Toyotas.

If you are staring at your rear view mirror you're not paying attention to what's in front of you which is far more important to your responsibility as a driver.

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MindPilot

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:50 PM
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51. One giant leap of illogic...

Why didn't you just make that accusation in your OP? Would have saved a few of us some time.

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Rebubula

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Mon Apr-19-10 04:12 PM
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54. Of course....

Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 04:22 PM by Rebubula

...you realize that more than 1 million Toyotas are sold in the US every year and only a MINUSCULE percent (far less than .01) have any problems with the gas pedal?

Just because you are irrationally afraid of a mathematical anomaly does not mean that we are apologists.

ON EDIT: To start calling people 'apologists' when you are losing your argument is pretty freaking weak.

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Warren Stupidity

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Mon Apr-19-10 04:40 PM
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56. Way to follow up a perfectly stupid OP with Teh Bittah!

You Rock!

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Rex

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:25 PM
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44. No, I hardly ever notice the type of vehicle that is behind me.

I've never let social-economic-politico fears creep into my driving patterns.

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SidDithers

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:33 PM
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45. It must be very sad to go through life with so much fear...nt

Sid

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Ichingcarpenter

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:44 PM
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47. Scared Stupid

The 1991 movie where Ernest unknowingly unleashes a troll on the world.

I miss Jim Varney. Now what was this thread about?

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:45 PM
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49. never give it a thought.

:rofl:

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NM_hemilover

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:50 PM
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50. I tailgate people who stare at me from thier rear view mirror,

Paranoid people behind the wheel, are more dangerous than those of us who own the road.

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elocs

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Mon Apr-19-10 03:54 PM
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53. Asolutely not, and I drive one. As far as "anybody else feel uncomfortable around Toyotas?",

you do so "anybody" does.

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laughingliberal

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Mon Apr-19-10 04:15 PM
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55. No. nt

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Brother Buzz

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Mon Apr-19-10 04:51 PM
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57. People in front of me laugh after I attached a large sign on the front of my Toyota

It simply reads:

DODGE BROTHERS

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Change Happens

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Mon Apr-19-10 05:52 PM
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58. I am always worried about a Toyota made from parts made in the US?

The other Toyotas, where parts are from Japan but the cars are put together in the US, I really don't worry much!

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Mother Smuckers

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Mon Apr-19-10 05:57 PM
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59. No, but I can't stop worrying about this when I go outdoors

http://www.imdb.com/rg/action-box-title/primary-photo/media/rm3440745472/tt0044207

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pitohui

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Mon Apr-19-10 06:07 PM
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60. tee hee i almost ran ya down last night

i put on my brakes at the last minute when i realized you were driving a sheriff's car oopsie daisy!!!

sorry, gots to love my toyota, the car that has climbed every mountain in bolivia and is every cab in bolivia and yet somehow they don't have any more accidents even on the "highway of death" than you'd have in yr ford F150

and i luvs me some ford, but come on

toyota climbs mtns in other countries is it only in america that they're put together wrong? or is it lawsuit happy lawyers?

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HughMoran

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Mon Apr-19-10 06:10 PM
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61. lol

that's funny! :)

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