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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:40 AM
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Glenn Greenwald: Unlearned lessons from the Steven Hatfill case
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/04/21/hatfill

Andrew Sullivan rightly recommends this new Atlantic article by David Freed, which details how the FBI and a mindless, stenographic American media combined to destroy the life of Steven Hatfill. Hatfill is the former U.S. Government scientist who for years was publicly depicted as the anthrax attacker and subjected to Government investigations so invasive and relentless that they forced him into almost total seclusion, paralysis and mental instability, only to have the Government years later (in 2008) acknowledge that he had nothing to do with those attacks and to pay him $5.8 million to settle the lawsuit he brought. There are two crucial lessons that ought to be learned from this horrible -- though far-from-rare -- travesty:

(1) It requires an extreme level of irrationality to read what happened to Hatfill and simultaneously to have faith that the "real anthrax attacker" has now been identified as a result of the FBI's wholly untested and uninvestigated case against Bruce Ivins. The parallels are so overwhelming as to be self-evident.

Just as was true for the case against Hatfill, the FBI's case against Ivins is riddled with scientific and evidentiary holes. Much of the public case against Ivins, as was true for Hatfill, was made by subservient establishment reporters mindlessly passing on dubious claims leaked by their anonymous government sources. So unconvincing is the case against Ivins that even the most establishment, government-trusting voices -- including key members of Congress, leading scientific journals and biological weapons experts, and the editorial pages of The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall St. Journal -- have all expressed serious doubts over the FBI's case and have called for further, independent investigations.

Yet just as was true for years with the Hatfill accusations, no independent investigations are taking place. That's true for three reasons. First, the FBI drove Ivins to suicide, thus creating an unwarranted public assumption of guilt and ensuring the FBI's case would never be subjected to the critical scrutiny of a trial -- exactly what would have happened with Hatfill had he, like Ivins, succumbed to that temptation, as Freed descrbies:

The next morning, driving through Georgetown on the way to visit one of his friends in suburban Maryland, I ask Hatfill how close he came to suicide. The muscles in his jaw tighten.

"That was never an option," Hatfill says, staring straight ahead. "If I would've killed myself, I would’ve been automatically judged by the press and the FBI to be guilty."


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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:52 AM
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:57 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:02 PM
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3. The Ivins debacle is now very easy to rebutt.
No one who knows Ivins believes the "loner" bullshit.

No scientist that doesn't work for the FBI agrees with their bs science.

That's it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:35 PM
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4. But, isn't it strange how the Corporate Media treated the Ivins matter--like a third rail
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:13 PM
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6. Corporate M$M isn't about journalism or investigation.
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 02:14 PM by tom_paine
It's about marketing and PR. It's also about placing products to the all important 30-45 white male demographic so you can sell time.

Corporate M$M is about filling in the time between the commercials, to put people into a buying mood.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:51 PM
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5. The quickest way to solve this case is to waterboard Dick Cheney.
Personality wise he seems the most likely person to have masterminded it.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 08:32 PM
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7. Great article
Makes it very clear how the same flawed methods that have proved to be wrong were applied to both Hatfill and Ivins, with Ivins sadly succumbing to the pressure.
Hatfill's quote in response to the question about suicide is doubly poignant, given Ivins' demise.

Sorry I'm too late to add to the recommends, but a hearty kick.
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