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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:23 PM Original message |
Canadian University Restricting Graphic Posters that Compare Abortion to Genocide |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. In Catholic HS we had a teacher who put those fucking posters all over his classroom. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. at least in the US, case law distinguishes GREATLY between HS and college |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. This was a Catholic HS...and homefry was 20+ years in. |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is about time people start saying "enough" to this nonsense. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. are the abu graib pictures "propaganda"? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. They can be if you put a catchy slogan on them about an irrelevant topic |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. the point is that pictures say a lot |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Except these things aren't used to further discourse, but rather to shut it down |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. no, it's called free speech and vigorous debate |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. We had that vigorous debate years ago. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. so, dissent is wrong |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. So, just a question |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. in canada, few forms of speech are protected |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. True. Talking is strictly not permitted in internment camps up North |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. cue the logical fallacies |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Well see, there is no law on it. None. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. here's a hint, genius |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Here's a hint for you in return. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. spin spin away |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It would help if you read the item. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. "...far less freedom of speech than the US."? Really? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yes, but they aren't allowed to talk about it |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. That's one opinion... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. "Do you agree with the authorities in this particular case" |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Well, it is just their opinion... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. "at least until an idea popular to them is censored" |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Well there is a debate in the US over this... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. "and Canada has perhaps moved a tad too far towards the regulating end" |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Well, that certainly turns some steryotypes on their head... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I can't disagree with you there |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Yes you cannot incite immediate violence in the US. |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. I don't equate a woman's private medical decision with torturing people. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. I don't think it is time to say "enough" to free expression |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. exactly. sure these photos are offensive. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Life is often offensive |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. bingo. these are college kids |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
60. I'm not for blocking opinions. But quite frankly, I've never seen proof of these so-called abortion |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. As opposed to pre-existing conditions? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. Different country, different laws. Not better or worse, just different...nt |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. rubbish |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Sure makes their society terrible too |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. nice fantasy |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. "inferior" |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. i love the double standard from ideologues like you |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Excuse me for using a real example to show the pitfalls of your "enlightened" system |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. so, you are proposing a "results based analysis" vis a vis civil rights? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Sometimes "freedom" at any cost can repress a free discourse of ideas |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. you can prefer whatever you want, but if you are in canada, you don't have free |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Shame on Canada for not allowing religious nuts to protest soldiers' funerals |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. i agree with everybody from the CCLA to the ACLU |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Which, IMO, strangely results in a more honest and more free exchange of ideas |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. if you foolishly believe that, more power to you |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Nice try. The government doesn't censor *ideas* |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. the canadian govt. most definitely does |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Canada is a very different country than the US. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. that;'s great, but tangential |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. No, the fact it's a different country is the ENTIRE point. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. those are mutually exclusive |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. What I don't understand is your concern. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. many canadians DON'T like it just fine |
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ZeitgeistObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Yes, I'm afraid we do like it. |
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divvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
22. Right wing neo-nazi types do consider it genocide |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
28. Changed my mind |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
36. such stupid comparisons |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. They consider the aborted fetus... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. Who here are afraid of those images? Are they real? (nt) |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
52. Dude, put on your flame-suit. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. What? No one yelling CENSORSHIP? |
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sixstrings75 (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
70. Please don't invade us!!! |
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