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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 09:43 AM Original message |
Read responses “Student loans throw us further into debt” (Daily Titan, Cal State Fullerton) |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Name another thing that the government lends money on |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Should govt. focus on reducing education cost as it did with health care as part of an ed loan |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. I don't see where HCR did diddly-squat |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. What the fuck is this shit?? |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Thank you!!! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. This is teabagger bullshit. Check the author's other nuggets of wisdom. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. When this has come up on my campus, I suggest people check the cost differences |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Suggest people check the difference between what Americans pay for university and |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Do European leaders tout college for all as do US presidents? n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Is 4 yr: private $26,273, public $7,020 and 2 yr: public $2,544 reasonable? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Sure, if you count University of Phoenix. Real colleges cost more than that 20 years ago. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. UP has perhaps 500k students so it is serving students who expect to get jobs upon graduation. n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
8. College cost is not justifiable by the jobs it qualifies one for. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Agree and traditional university degrees in high tech areas, e.g. IT, rarely prepare a grad for work |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Really? Have to wonder why the tech graduates have the highest salaries and are sought after. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Poster means "INFORMATION technology". Engineering numbers are a red herring. nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Actually they said high tech areas like IT |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Computer science is a special case of IT as you know. Other cited degrees with high salaries |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You have that backwards... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Many colleges offer IT degrees outside of schools of engineering and many of those programs are not |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. People who buy into unacrreditied programs should know better |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Good point but an unaccredited DBA from Harvard is a key to tenured faculty positions. n/t |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Read all about it... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Wow. Very powerful story. Thank you for sharing. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I got mine while I was fully employed. Took much longer, but there were no loans |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. No, that article is the big lie |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. PhD and two Masters here... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. And you still probably make more |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. IMO the only degree that counts for teaching full time is a PhD from a reputable residence program |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Liberal arts majors are in for a long drought |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Given limited govt funds, should we subsidize degrees for which jobs are available before we fund |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Why don't we just limit college access altogether since education is all about job training? |
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Jello Biafra (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
11. Number One.... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Prompts question, should govt subsidize degrees for which jobs are not available? n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Should the government subsidize individual degrees at all |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. But subsidizing individual degrees makes it easier to meet social egalitarian goals. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. I support empowered choice by adults not social egalitarian goals or government based |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I also support individual freedoms. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. College isn't necessarily about vocational training. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Some college courses are not, but some need to be professional preparation |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
28. unbelieveable... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
29. So now you're reduced to posting Teabagger nonsense? |
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