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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:25 PM
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If you REALLY want to help change Arizona, send $$$ to Democrats running for the AZ legislature
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 07:12 PM by Nikki Stone1
THAT's how you get change. Boycotts of the state hurt our fellow Democrats too.

Instead, support Democratic candidates in the November 2010 election.

Don't like GOP Jan Brewer signing the recent fascist bill?

Then send MONEY to these DEMOCRATS running:

$$$$$$$$$$$$

Andrei Cherny for TREASURER

http://www.andreiforarizona.com/


Felicia Rotellini for ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.feleciaforarizona.com/


Sam Wercinski for SECRETARY OF STATE

https://www.sam4az.com/

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

OFFER TO HELP:


GODDARD, TERRY (Democrat)
PO Box 1792
Phoenix, AZ 85001
Telephone: (602)254-6342
Filerid: 201000311

Send him (non money) help, NOW.

Here is his website: http://www.terrygoddard.com/

Here is some info about him: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Terry_Goddard
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:27 PM
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1. Don't forget the Arizona Democratic Party!
www.azdem.org

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. +10,000
:thumbsup:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. Do what you can for those candidate running traditionally. The AZ Party doesn't support candidates.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #15
76. So send money directly to the three candidates in the OP but not to the gov's race
Gotcha
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. This is their press release on Juan Crow before it was signed and nothing since:
AZ Republicans failing to tackle real immigration problems

Don Bivens, Arizona Democratic Party chairman, offers the following statement on SB1070 as it awaits signature or veto from Gov. Brewer:

“Republicans continue to push Arizona down the wrong track with this bill. They know it does nothing to protect us, and they know it burdens law enforcement. But they passed it anyway in hopes of scoring cheap political points during an election year. The real public-safety threats to Arizona are border violence, drug cartels and human smuggling. Gov. Brewer and the Republicans could take a lesson from Attorney General Terry Goddard, who battles these real threats every day on the job. We call on the governor to do the right thing and veto this bill.”
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #16
38. EFerrari, apparently Joe Arpaio is harassing Goddard and his family
See Saracat's remarks down thread. I wonder if that plays into this response any.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #38
46. Could be. What a menace that guy is.
:grr:
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. Yes he has
Goddard has had deputies outside his home and has been followed as has other officials who disagreed with Arpaio. I have even been the victim of Arpaio's thugs when I did my show at KPHX. I made the grave crime of allowing Dan Saban to guest host my show, and having Saban on my show repeated so Arpaio thugs contacted my sponsor and tried to get them to drop my show saying that I was anti-american and such. Thankfully the sponsor didn't, but they were shortly raided in one of their locations following renewal.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #48
56. OMG. Like Arpaio runs Arizona?
Good Lord!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Yes
And here is the Wiki page on him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#History_and_law_enforcement_background

And sadly people like his tough on crime stance... never mind it does not work... but never let facts get in the way of reality.

As I learned over the years, he is a symptom...
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #58
71. I never realized he had that kind of power
I always thought of him as sort of an oddity. Someone needs to do a Darryl Gates on him. Videotape a beating in progress.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #71
78. Daryl Gates is a saint compared to Joe
and Joe also has a hell of a PR going. Why do you think there are TV programs on TLC like the Police Women of Maricopa Co? But he is truly a symptom.

Anecdotal last Tea Bagger event we went to counter protest... several people from Az said in no uncertain terms that the country needs more Joes.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #78
83. WHAT? (Don't make me choke, here, nadin)
I go way back in LA and I can't imagine that Arpaio can top Gates.

And the teabaggers: I actually heard KFI's John Kobylt say something sensible about them. He pointed out how many of them were retired and living on social security and asked them how they intended to reduce the debt and lower taxes but still keep their Medicare and SS. It's the first logical thing I have heard out of KFI in many years.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #83
86. Actually I agree
Preface - we are talking relative evil here... But I think Joe is much worse than Daryl.

L-
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #86
87. This you gotta explain to me
I don't get how...
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:39 AM
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92. Ack...
This is a relative thing. I really am not trying to say Daryl was a saint or anything like this. But, I think that Daryl was more of a process junkie who used the existing system for his kind of injustice and bigotry. Joe A. on the other hand has invested time and energy into subverting the system to make it worse - actively doing his best to turn things more facist.

Indifference vs Active Corruption.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #92
95. I don't know if I would call Gates indifferent: he certainly was active
But he did work within the system. However he had tremendous power here in LA. There was an article in the late 80s that described how in most cities the Sheriff opened the door for the DA, but in LA, the DA opened the door for Gates. He wielded quite a bit of power.

Arpaio may be a law unto himself, and THAT is scary shit. So I can see your point.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #92
103. +1
Small but critical difference. Also Daryl in his earlier years was actually a decent cop... Joe looked for ways to subvert the system from the begining. Joe wants legal cover, and when it does not exist he gets it... see this law.

As bad as Gates was... he never got the kind of cover or political protection that Joe has these days.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #103
115. How did Arpaio amass so much power?
And get so much support?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #115
119. Lnow the right people,
the correct political environment, and the county he works at is VERY RACIST and FAIRLY WHITE. The political power structure is quite white in fact.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #119
129. I remember your mentioning San Diego being similar: a white power structure with
a large minority city? Is that right?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #129
131. Nothing as extreme as Maricopa County
and in San Diego that problem is worst at the county level.

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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #78
84. Joe is pure evil
He willfully pushes it. Daryl was just a process junkie who didn't care what happened.

L-
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #84
89. What is his thing? Is he going for pure power?
?
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #89
94. I think he views the end justifies the means
People eat up his use of prisoners in pink without understand that such behavior is merely window dressing and smoke screen for egregious violations of rights. Racial profiling is the norm in Maricopa county - Joe is actively pushing for a return to 1950's era politics - "What we have here is a failure to communicate"

L-
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #94
97. Pink?
He puts prisoners in pink? That's just sadistic.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #97
102. Yep
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 12:52 AM by Lithos
Did that to "emasculate" the men ostensibly to prevent them from being so aggressive.

L-

On Edit: Lest those lurkers wonder why I detest Arpaio - has nothing to do with this. To me the pink thing is just pettiness on his part. One of the prime reasons I detest Arpaio is his tolerance and support for neo-Nazi types:

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/sheriff-joe-arpaio-says-hi-his-neo-n

The other is that I agree with the complaints that he has deliberately engaged in racial profiling:

http://www.aclu.org/immigrants-rights/lawsuit-charging-sheriff-arpaio-illegally-targeted-latinos-maricopa-county-can-go-
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #102
112. Overt support of neo-Nazis?
Good Lord.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #97
104. And don't forget the black and white stripes


Or the chain gangs



No Daryl Gates never evah went there. So in relative terms, he was a saint.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #104
114. Is that for real?
If it is, then you win. :(
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #114
118. Very much real
those photos are from his little joy place called a county jail in Maricopa.

Oh and here is the deal, ever watched LA Confidential? That was the norm for LAPD, that is what Gates cleaned up... in his latter years he got power hungry, but he never went where Joe is going to.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #118
130. ::Shaking head:::
Ahhhhh!
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:33 PM
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3. Yeah this is constructive and also
you can help with our progressive radio network that is listener supported. We need help to keep getting out the word of progressive causes. You are welcome to listen and donate at http://thejefffariasshow.com and you can hear podcast of our shows to see we are fighting the battle for sanity in our nation.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Great idea!
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 06:34 PM by Nikki Stone1
:thumbsup:
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:34 PM
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5. EXCELLENT idea.
K&R

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Wish more people thought so.
:(
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:47 PM
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7. I'm thinking people just want to complain
Sad. This is something that can really be changed.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. more likely people see it as a lost cause.
i lived in AZ for a few yrs. phoenix. that place is stupid crazy filled to the brim with repukes.

i can relate to the cynicism.

:shrug:



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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Is it really that bad?
What are the ratios of GOP to Dem?
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. I don't remember the numbers but can get them
It is not as wide as some would think but it is a big difference. I have sources that can give the actual figures so I will see if I can get them for everyone and post them.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. Thanks. That would be really helpful.
I think we make snap judgments on places based on presuppositions.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #9
24. off the top of my head, a rough estimate, 10 to 1 or higher.
it's pretty fucked up out there.

just think, how many times have they re-elected McCain? think, these people elected state reps that actually thought a fascist approach to immigration is A-OK.

let it sink in for a moment.

RW hack to the highest order of magnitude. granted, there are some really great pockets of liberals out there, butit's just not enough.

also, and i think this is themost important part, there are a lot of *ahem* Utah type folks in Phoenix. A.LOT.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #24
26.  Not so at all we "were "very close to 50/50 in 08 but we have been losing numbers
and the Indies are beating both the GOP and the Dems. The problem we have is Dems don't vote and when they do they don't vote down ticket.The only thing that mattered to them in 08 was narrowing the Gao for obama.OTOH we have the majority of the congressional seats.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #26
43. i must have worked and lived in a very repuke area then, because
i never met another dem while i lived out there.
everyone i ever spoke to was hard right leaning and loved arpaio.

just my personal experience out there.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #43
74. The numbers are actually pretty close.
They are posted a couple of times on this thread.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 07:33 AM
Response to Reply #74
124. i'll have to go back through and look.
thanks for the heads up.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. And yet, the mayor of Phoenix has been the most outspoken
critic and has openly denounced Juan Crow. I'd send him money in a heartbeat.

Goddard needs to figure out if he's running for mayor of white Arizona or all of Arizona. 40+% of the state is not white.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #27
33.  Terry has been very outspoken about almost everything. His civil rights credentials are not
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 07:19 PM by saracat
questionable. And you can't send Terry money anyway so it is a moot point to make a nasty inference. Terry is the top target of Joe Arpaoi and has been subject to his harrassment and is number one on his enemies list. Monica and Terry's son have been repeatedly harrassed by Deputies who parki in fron of their home and monitor them 24/7. Terry has been the AG for ALL of Arizona regeardless of skin color..
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. OMG! Joe Arpaio is gunning for Goddard?
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 07:24 PM by Nikki Stone1
Isn't what he is doing harassment? Shouldn't there be a high level official that can take action?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #37
50. Well, yeah but Terry is the highest ranking law enforcement officer in AZ
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 08:24 PM by saracat
as AG and there are multiple lawsuits pending against Arpaio, and his pal the former County Attorney, Andrew Thomas, who now wants to be Attorney General to replace Terry.Both are under federal investigation as well. One of the things Joe is under federal investigation for IS his harassment of Terry as well as the Mayor of Phoenix. Joe has made it very clear he doesn't have to answer to the President either. I am have also been informed that I too am on the alleged "hit" list for correspondence with Phil, the Mayor and because of a perceived friendly relationship with the Goddards. I have been photographed going into and leaving their home. This is how Arapaho makes his "lists".There are many of us on the "list"
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #50
55. So Joe Arpaio thinks he doesn't have to answer to the President?
Uh....I don't even know what to say to that one.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #55
66. Yes. He says the Feds have no authority over him, nor does the president. He says he is the law in
Maricopa County and that trumps everything. Seriously. He has said that.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #66
73. The guy is delusional.
Really delusional.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #33
47. There's nothing "nasty" about trying to figure out where Goddard is
with respect to an issue I care about.

I don't know Arizona politics. That's why I'm reading this thread and looking around for what I can find.

But this is where the rubber hits the road for Latinos in Arizona and in a sense, in any state. Maybe he or others will refine their statements in the days to come.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #27
35. The Mayor of Phoenix is not running for statewide office in November
I understand how you feel; it's really frustrating. :grr:

But, if Saracat is right that Democrats have lower turnout, then maybe Goddard is following a common Democratic strategy in AZ. Just a guess.

It's a great idea, though to send the Phoenix mayor some dollars:

http://phoenix.gov/mayor/index.html

He a good Dem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gordon_(politician)
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #35
40. Gordon is a moderate Democrat
and has taken positions like endorsing McCain, that has upset us here. He has taken on Arpaio and now this bill that we appreciate so much, but let's not assume he is more than he is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #35
49. That dude is a poker player. Here's the mayor's link.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #27
44. that's the funny part. it has a very huge "minority" population and yet somehow
laws like this still get passed. it's a confusing little microcosm out there.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. This might just explode the Latino vote.
I wish I were retired so I could go out there and register me a big bunch of voters.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #45
77. If the sheriff doesn't intimidate them into staying home.
I think the AZ government overplayed their hand here, though. They are attracting national attention, so maybe the elections in August and November will be watched.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #77
85. If these people aren't voting, the question needs to be asked.
Greg Palast says the current governor was involved in a vote suppression scam when she held a different position -- his report is about to be replayed on Thom's show, I'll try to listen more carefully.

If that is right, then the NAACP or the ACLU or someone needs to step in. Enough already.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #85
91. Please post some info from Thom's show if you can
And yes, they ought to be looking into voter suppression.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #91
100. The segment will be on again sometime in the next hour.
I'll take notes and post what I get right here or below this post.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #100
101. THANK YOU
I so appreciate it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #91
108. Ha! Thom or someone from his show posted it here:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #108
116. Thanks.
.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #85
133. That was when she was Secretary of State.
Arizona has no Lieutenant Governor, so she was appointed Governor when Janet Napolitano left.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Do you have actual stats, though?
Everyone, for example, still thinks of Orange County, CA as very Republican but sections like Santa Ana are quite diverse. When Loretta Sanchez won Bob Dornan's old seat in Garden Grove, it was a watershed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. I have them somewhere. I'll send them to you.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. no stats, just personal experience. sorry. : (
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #41
64. Thanks, anyway
:)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #32
53. Here are the stats
Both GOP and Dem registrations are down since then. The Indies have leaped yet farther forward.

excerpt from) Arizona Republic
Arizona voter registration grows to nearly 3.1 million
by Mary Jo Pitzl / Apr. 21, 2009

From last November’s election through April 1, voter registration rose by more than 100,000 people, or 3.4 percent, according to figures from the Arizona Secretary of State….

Republicans continue to dominate the voter rolls, with 1,137,262 voters, but the party posted the smallest percentage gain, up 1.7 percent.

Democrats were next, with 1,046,140 voters, up 2.3 percent.

The largest percentage gain was among Libertarians, who posted an 11.6 percent gain in registration, for a total of 20,256 voters.

The Green Party, which gained ballot status last year, boosted its numbers 5 percent, to 4,210 voters.

Voters who are unaffiliated with any party continue to be the third-largest voting group in Arizona, with 880,128 voters, a 6.8 percent gain from November…
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #53
62. AZ GOP, 1,137,262 voters; Democrats, 1,046,140; No Party, 880,128; Libertarians,20,256; Green, 4,210
Thanks for this!
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 07:35 AM
Response to Reply #53
125. i definitely see the libertarian surge. there are TONS of ron paul nuts.
there were ron paul banners along the 10 for a long time during 2008.

blech.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #125
132. Ron Paul???
Really???

Is it the gun owners?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #132
136. yes, and also the whole racism thing.
ayn rand groupies, et. al

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. I went looking for his remarks about this law and was underwhelmed
by his response. Has he got anything new since Friday or so?

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. What was his response like?
Remember, he is running in a fairly conservative state so he may be keeping a low profile.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. That's probably right. It was very similar to this one
put out by the AZ party that I posted above:

AZ Republicans failing to tackle real immigration problems

Don Bivens, Arizona Democratic Party chairman, offers the following statement on SB1070 as it awaits signature or veto from Gov. Brewer:

“Republicans continue to push Arizona down the wrong track with this bill. They know it does nothing to protect us, and they know it burdens law enforcement. But they passed it anyway in hopes of scoring cheap political points during an election year. The real public-safety threats to Arizona are border violence, drug cartels and human smuggling. Gov. Brewer and the Republicans could take a lesson from Attorney General Terry Goddard, who battles these real threats every day on the job. We call on the governor to do the right thing and veto this bill.”

____________


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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #22
30. It's mild for the political season, I guarantee.
But he's on the right side of the issue and that's what counts.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:56 PM
Response to Original message
10. K & R nt
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
12. I hate to bring this up, but....
How can you be sure every Democrat running is so outraged by stuff like this? It pains me to say this but I've run across more bigots in my own party than makes me comfortable. Giving $$$$ to Democrats running is a great idea..but make sure you specifically know their stand on the issue or issues that most concern you lest they actually get elected and hand you a nasty surprise.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. Goddard has a national award for civil rights work
-- National award for civil rights work. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gave the Arizona AG's Office its highest honor in 2008 for outstanding programs addressing fair housing issues. HUD's Blue Ribbon Award was presented to the Office's Civil Rights Division for the office's work in attacking predatory lending and resolving building design issues that affect handicapped residents

http://www.terrygoddard.com/record
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. that is where I come in and
Jeff Farias. We contact these people and we get statements then air them on our network. We try to let people know what is going on and we hope people will tune in to get informed. If you have a question we will try to get an answer if we don't have it.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #21
39. Please put your link up again with a title post in this thread
I don't want that to get lost.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. I have done so and hope it isn't misunderstood
I know it can be taken as personal promotion and while we certainly need the attention and support I don't want to have folks take it wrong. Thanks and keep your fingers crossed that people will understand why I acted on your request.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #42
54. Thanks. And I am sure people won't think it's just a personal promotion.
:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #12
28. That's a good idea. I've been trying to sort through the news
and the websites because I don't know those politicians very well.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 06:58 PM
Response to Original message
13. You can't send Terry money. He is running clean. You can volunteer.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. You can't send him money? Can we send the DNC money for him?
Damn!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #18
23.  No. This is a state election. But Terry does need volunteers and people who will spread the word.
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 07:05 PM by saracat
People can flood the AZ blogs for Terry and anyone who can come and volunteer would be appreciated. The AZ Dem State party is almost worthless when it comes to supporting candidates. They exist to support themselves. Andrei Cherni, for treasurer, Felicia Rotellini for AG amd Sam Wercinski for Sec. of State are all running traditionally. Everyone can mail checks to them or donate through their website.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. Yeah I think so
The one thing that can be counted on by the Democratic Party here is that funds will go to help Goddard. I don't know about the lower offices getting a decent share but Goddard is the party's key race and he will get the funds.

Let me explain something here, this group passing these laws are not new, they were around before Brewer took office, but the former Governor did blocking actions that made them give up on passing this stuff. Sadly when Janet left it opened the door so we are trying to get Goddard in to stop this insanity since it is the most effective way to stop this garbage.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. The best way to get action would be to put together an independent expediture
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 07:14 PM by saracat
that the Goddard campaign cannot KNOW would be way more effective than anything the AZ Party would do.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #25
60. So this state legislature has been GOP?
Is that how they get their insanity through?
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #18
134. There's the Arizona Democratic Party.
www.azdem.org
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #13
31. Speaking of running clean, a ballot measure to shut down public financing ALSO needs to be shut down
The Arizona Chamber and some corporatist GOPers want to shut it down and remove one more foothold we have to start to reform our campaign financing systems.

http://www.yumasun.com/news/ballot-57937-clean-elections.html

Perhaps send money to the state's AFL-CIO, the Sierra Club, or the League of Women's Voters who are trying to fight this ballot measure.

http://campverdebugleonline.com/main.asp?SectionID=36&SubSectionID=73&ArticleID=26400

Still looking for a dedicated fund for challenging this measure that we can direct everyone to, so that we know our money is directed to shut this BS down! Perhaps those working against the immigration measure can join forces with those that are working against this measure to get rid of public campaign financing.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. +10,000
:thumbsup:






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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
51. Most of our lege candidates are running under Clean Elections and cannot take money.
With the exception of a small amount of seed money. Better to send money to the Maricopa County Democratic Party. Maricopa is where 2/3 of the state lives and most of the Dems even though it's a Republican majority county. Not to disparage the State Party but the Maricopa County Party is where much of the field work is done and we're always struggling to raise funds as the State Party siphons donor money.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #51
59. EXCELLENT IDEA
Wish I could kick and rec your post
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #51
135. Good point. Thanks.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
52. K&R
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. Thanks, but there have been many unrecs as you can see.
At least 7 or 8.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #57
67. Interesting indeed
...
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #67
75. Well, if we can keep the web addresses of the candidates kicked
that's what is important.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #67
79. Note the latest unrec, just in the past couple of minutes
It's like an addiction with some folks.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #79
90. Just don't understand it myself...
...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #90
106. Part of the problem may be that the boycott has been denigrated
by some posters urging contributions instead. The boycott has been called stupid, reactionary and unproductive. That's problematic as the boycott itself is an effort that was started in the Latino community -- a community that don't deserve insult on top of injury at this moment and especially in view of the fact that AZ Democrats are not falling all over themselves to set the record straight in public on this issue.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #106
107. So?
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 01:08 AM by Lithos
I wonder if people realize this is not an either/or situation...

On Edit: Also people need to understand that DU is here to *GET* Democrats elected with the general idea that Dems are a damn'd site better than Pukes for preventing crap like this from happening.

L-
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #107
111. So, I expect you can understand that people undertaking
an action of resistance would take offense when they are called stupid, reactionary and unproductive.

The point that this is not an either/or situation has been made, more or less steadfastly, since Saturday night, iirc. And of course DU is here to get Democrats elected. I submit that the best way to do that may not be to beat voters about the head and shoulders first but, that's just m.o.




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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #111
120. Not really
I have a hard time understanding complaints about a boycott being unproductive as being personal in nature provided it was the idea being addressed and not the person. If there were such personally directed things, then they need to be alerted on. And even so, I do not think unrec'ing a general call to arms to support Democratic candidates as being appropriate in response even if that were the case.

L-

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #120
122. Right. And as you said you didn't understand it, I was trying to explan
what I saw, not endorsing the unrecs.

If you have a hard time understanding the disrespect to the Latino community in calling their project stupid, reactonary and unproductive, I don't think I can explain it any more clearly than I have. Having said that, I'm sure none of those things were said with malice or with any intent to hurt feelings. We get excited around here.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #106
117. This OP doesn't insult the boycott: it offers a real alternative
With real information.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #117
126. The OP doesn't insult the boycott, agreed. n/t
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #126
127. Thank you.
We need a solution.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
61. K&R
Make a difference
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. Amen!
This is how we start.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:00 AM
Response to Original message
65. K&R...why are there not more recs??
Great thread!! THX.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #65
69. There were a lot more
But you know what happens....
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #69
80. I've heard...
that "shit happens"....and it appears it has happened here.

Damn shame....and stupid.

:)Good thread anyhow. :thumbsup:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #80
82. Appreciate it.
This is the one response to Arizona that could actually change things.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #82
88. Again, easier to hate than to make an effort to change something.
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 12:33 AM by Desertrose
Yes, let's sit in our homes and BOYCOTT ARIZONA...that'll show 'em by golly.

Heck while we're at it, lets boycott Alaska cause we don't like Palin.

Easier to stay in the old negative mode than try something positive like supporting those who could possibly change things.


Thanks for your efforts. :hug:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #88
98. Thanks. I just hope this whole stunt of the governor's backfires and brings more attention
to the injustices going on. Isn't Arpaio being investigated?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
68. Thank you Nikki for this post!
Nobody in our state even voted for Jan Brewer for Governor. She was Sec of State and took Janet Napolitano's place.
We didn't ask for her, and we definitely didn't ask for any of this.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #68
70. I know Jan Brewer was foisted on you guys.
And as happy as I was for Napolitano, I kinda wish she had stayed in AZ.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #68
72. *HUG*
Wish more people understood this...

The freeper bigots got lucky, this does not represent the feelings of the state by any means.

L-
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #72
96. I don't think it's a matter of not understanding.
A lot of us were sort of alarmed when the governor went to work for Obama.

However, her replacement didn't write this bill. And Joe keeps getting re-elected. Changing out the governor could be a help but it looks like there's a fundamental problem of disenfranchisement in Arizona that has been allowed to continue until it came to this.

That needs to be addressed. I'm sure the Thuggery is watching the reaction very carefully.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #96
105. I remember those comments
And the fear of the backlash the appoint would cause.

I am curious about the disenfranchisement comment. Can you provide information please?

L-
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #105
109. Check out this report of Greg Palast's on Thom's show today:
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #109
110. Thanks
Very interesting...

L-
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #110
113. I remember this story when Palast and Kennedy first put it out.
The whole Southwest has this problem but iirc, AZ and NM are just rife with it.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #113
121. Just a thought though
That if this is indeed true to the extent reported, then everyone needs to understand that Arizona is a *BLUE* state by nature and that it is only by illegal fiat that it is RED.

This is not to you, just thinking out loud to those quick to judge the state as a whole.

L-
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:13 AM
Response to Reply #121
123. Ding ding ding!
The Republicans have had to pull out a whole lot of tricks to take Arizona.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #121
128. There's a thought...
.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #68
81. You speak the truth jillian!!!!!!
Thank you!! :hug:
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:39 AM
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93. Yes we have some good folks running here in Az
Andrei Cherny is someone I know and respect. He is young but he is smart and has an eye on the future. Another good young candidate is Rodney Glassman who I have mentioned a few times, Sam Wercinski who I feel will make a great Sec of State and has a very good chance of winning.

Another candidate here that I think are worth supporting Rebecca Schneider, who is running against Jeff Flake and needs plenty of grassroots support. She is running against a machine and she doesn't make a lot of money and is depending on support.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:44 AM
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99. You know, we need a place where all DUers can see candidates of merit and send them a few dollars
I'm worried for Boxer right now, here in CA, and I'd LOVE for people to send her money.
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