Virginia driver denies license plate had coded racist message

Virginia driver denies license plate had coded racist message

Douglas Story, a Chantilly dump truck driver for the Virginia Department of Transportation, says he wanted to grab people's attention when he paid $224.90 to have a mural of the burning World Trade Center detailed onto the tailgate of his Ford F-150 along with a sticker that reads: "Everything I ever needed to know about Islam I learned on 9/11."
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But he got more than he bargained for when a photo of his pickup went viral on the Web last week. Motorists and Muslim groups complained that his Virginia vanity license plate -- 14CV88 -- was really code for neo-Nazi, white supremacist sentiments. The state Department of Motor Vehicles voted last week to recall Story's plates and force him to buy new ones.

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Story says the numbers 14 and 88 on his plate were not references to a white power slogan or "Heil Hitler," as the Council on American-Islamic Relations theorized, but an homage to his favorite NASCAR drivers: Tony Stewart, who drives car No. 14, and Dale Earnhardt Jr., who drives No. 88.

Story applied for the vanity plate in March 2009, shortly after Earnhardt changed his car number from 8 to 88 and Stewart changed his from 20 to 14.

CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said his group looked into the meaning of the numbers 14 and 88 after receiving complaints about Story's license plates. He said the group found that among neo-Nazis, 88 refers to "Heil Hitler," because H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. White supremacists sometimes use the number 14, Hooper said, as shorthand for the 14-word motto, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

Story says that his truck has long been decorated with the Confederate battle flag and that he does have "CV" Sons of Confederate Veterans plates, which he obtained after discovering that his great-great-great-grandfather was a second lieutenant with the Alabama Partisan Rangers during the Civil War.

The flag "celebrates my Southern heritage," he said. "And the numbers recognize my favorite drivers in that southernest of sports, NASCAR."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/28/AR2010042805335.html?hpid=moreheadlines

racist meaning in 14CV88 and don't buy the explanation given.

:shrug:

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The Fourteen Words is a phrase used predominantly by white nationalists in the United States. It most commonly refers to the 14-word slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children",<1> and it can also refer to another 14-word slogan: "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth."<2> Both slogans were coined by David Lane, a member of the white separatist organization The Order. The first slogan was inspired by a statement, 88 words in length, from Volume 1, Chapter 8 of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf:

What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility.

White nationalists sometimes combine the number 14 with 88, as in "14/88" or "1488". The 8s stand for the eighth letter of the alphabet (H), with 'HH' standing for "Heil Hitler".<3> '88' can also refer to the book 88 Precepts by David Lane.<4> The 88 can also stand for the 88-word statement in Mein Kampf mentioned above.

he know it?

he would DEFINITELY know the code.

Don't kid yourself.

It's a "secret handshake" of sorts, something that lets other neo-Nazis types know who they are but doesn't just flat out scream it to the "average" person.

Why would a guy put a street sign on his rural driveway with "1488 Lane" on it? So that people could find the place in the middle of the night for their little meetings and be sure they had the right place.

Nascar people love their numbers...

Even if it was intentional, only very few people are going to know what it means. This reminds me of the people who look for coded messages in the Bible from examining the number equivalents in the Hebrew text.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

:shrug:

They LOVE the symbolism.

You don't grow up gay in the south and learn REALLY quick whom to avoid at all costs. ANY time you see 14 and 88 together, you know there's trouble, pure-dee.

As I mentioned elsewhere on this subject, I did some field work back in the 90s for a guy who researches these idiots. Guy had placed a street sign on his driveway, which was a long dirt road in a rural area. It read "1488 Lane." (Guess what kind of meetings happened at his place.)

The people who *use* the symbolism all know it very well. It's an identifier for other like-minded souls. The fact it's not on the average person's radar is part of the point.

The CV is new to me, but the other symbolism on his truck doesn't leave that much doubt as to what it means.

Why? Because you can't get around in society wearing a big ol "I love Hitler" T-shirt. A lot of these guys hide how deep their hatred goes.

And the CV is the part of the license plate he admitted to.

Scary. Up close there was even more than just that sign.

I wandered out there like a great, fat idiot to take pictures of the place from a distance and ended up getting closer than I should have. I got lucky. Either no one was home, or they were sleeping off a good moonshine drunk.

I mean, I hadn't seen it used so directly in conjunction with the 1488 before.

I haven't followed the story closely enough to know a lot about the guy. Is he an SCV member? If so, we're getting into the splintering within the SCV with this combination of symbols. (Believe it or not, there are different varieties of individuals who join this organization.) Some of the camps are little more than thinly veiled fronts for neo-Nazi groups nowadays.

and initials on his tag couldn't *possibly* be related to racism. Right. :eyes:

I'd bet yes.

and I bet he was just ecstatic to have some excuse he could use to finally put those numbers on his tags.

Doesn't he need a sticker on his license plate for that?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8237733#8237939

:puke:

if this guy is stating the truth about the meaning of his vanity plate, i would expect to find a NASCAR or tony stewart decal on his rig. instead it's plastered with his racist confederate bullshit.

Search the main white supremacy site on the internet for 14/88. 14/88 is their main "secret phrase". The average person sees it and thinks it is nothing but two numbers, they see it and know what it means.

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:stormfront.org+14/88

The CV in the middle is Confederate Veterans (according to him), he has a big Confederate flag, a big picture denouncing Islam, yet its just a coincidence the confederate stuff breaks off these two numbers? This guy is definitely lying.

88 means Heil Hitler, because H is the 8th letter in the alphabet (88 - HH - Heil Hitler)

14 is for the 14 words. "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children". The words come from David Lane, a white supremacist who killed Jewish radio host Alan Berg. The 88 comes into play again, since he took the 14 words from an 88 word passage by Hitler in Mein Kampf.

Are they free or something, there?

It is ridiculous.

Of course all those people with vanity plates would cry if their taxes went up a 1/2 cent to help the schools or roads.

And wa-lah! Your very own vanity plate!

At one time, when I was a big toker, I had plates that were xxx DEA. Freaked people out.

Current letters are NRF xxxx - I call it my Nerfmobile.

if you want your group displayed or one of the artist state plates.

Asshole.

"He says he doesn't know who took the photo of his truck, in a handicapped parking spot, that became a viral sensation on the Web. "Probably someone who obviously has a soft spot for Islam," he said, pronouncing the word "I-slam," "because if you pronounce it 'Ih-slahm,' it's not disparaging enough." "

This guy is a complete fool and a liar. Tony Stewart left Joe Gibbs Racing at the end of the 2009 season which concludes in November of each year. He was assigned the number 14 by NASCAR in December of 2009. I am so tired of these idiots who say the stars and bars is a symbol of Southern Heritage. It is a flag from a group of states that seceded from the union and started a bloody war that killed close to 1 million Americans and caused the assasination of the president. You got caught just admit it that you are a white supremist.

which means the license MUST predate the change over. Am I right?

It takes a few weeks to get your vanity or specialty tags in Virginia so he clearly ordered the tags prior to Tony Stewart leaving Gibbs Racing. I have specialty tags that say "help fight childhood cancer'. My son had cancer and it is a public awareness thing. Not everybody does it for vain reasons. Also in Virginia you can hang a handicap plackard on the rearview mirror.

Just my belief.

no, that's inaccurate reporting, I have no doubt he said "nekkid".

:hide:

It's not nearly as fun otherwise.

The guy may well be a die-hard NASCAR fan who is telling the truth about the numbers.

Soon we will be talking and writing completely in asterisks * in order to avoid offending anyone or everyone. Sh*t and f**k man. Ooh - replace all v*w*ls with *st*r*sks - problem solved. No one is offended.

big time. fuggin losers.

He has a Facebook page.

UPDATE: Non-Racist NASCAR-Loving Truck Owner Actually Racist

There are a few other threads at DU on this. For example:

Internet Ruins Racist Pickup Truck's Fun

Search for the character string 14CV88.

thanks for the link :thumbsup:

The people who most dearly embrace 9-11 are almost always southerners who have a very low opinion of "yankees"-- and New York in particular. I mean, to hear them tell it, New York isn't even part of the "real America", so why do they glom on to 9-11 so hard?

i had a rough time immediately following 911, being a NewYork born person, seeing all these confederate flags suddenly replaced with American ones.

Whatever. But shortly after 911, I was at a county fair and saw a guy wearing a shirt referring to "killin' Yankees."

I walked by and told him he and Al Qaida must be tight because Ol' Osama just did the very same. The guy just stared back at me with a really confused expression ....but then racists and Modern Day Confederates usually are rather confused....

depicting the attack upon Fort Sumter?
Along with a sticker reading "Everything I ever needed to know about racist cracker folly I learned on 4/12 and 4/13"