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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:28 PM
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Gawker: Meet Stephanie Grace, the Harvard Law Student Who Started a Racist Email War
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"Third-year Harvard Law student Stephanie Grace sent a mass email about the inherent stupidity of black people. Now her campus, legal blogs, and the Black Law Students Association are up in arms, and Stephanie is hiding.

In the spring of her third and final year at Harvard Law, Stephanie Grace knows she shot herself in the foot. First she went on a white supremacist rant during a dinner with a group of law students. Then, when she got home, she emailed her dinner companions eugenics-lite email screed about "the possibility that African Americans are, on average, genetically predisposed to be less intelligent." What's dumber, thinking this audience wouldn't take offense, or thinking they wouldn't be cutthroat enough to take her down? Someone forwarded the email to Harvard's Black Law Students Association, which in turn forwarded it to Black Law Students Associations nationwide. Then legal blog Above the Law printed the email with her name redacted. As comment moderators fought to keep her name off their site, Stephanie apparently navigated to Facebook and began scrubbing herself from the internet, presumably to minimize how closely the imbroglio would be tied to her name, face, and reputation.

She ignored our requests for comment, giggling, "That's not me," when she hung up on us on the phone. (It was her. The outgoing voice message said so.)

Stephanie graduated from Princeton in 2007 with a degree in—wait for it—sociology. She's on the Harvard Law Review and, after graduation, she'll head to California for a plum federal clerkship with Ninth Circuit Judge Alex Kozinski, the titillating defender of free speech who had to recuse himself from a obscenity case when his cache of cow porn pictures came to light."

http://gawker.com/5527355/meet-stephanie-grace-the-harvard-law-student-who-started-a-racist-email-war
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:30 PM
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1. call me firsty mc firstington
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:32 PM
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2. This reminds me of some of us being chided for not understanding the "nuance" of certain
issues because we didn't go to Harvard.

I say, HAH!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:35 PM
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3. This is why that book "The Bell Curve" was so destructive
Racists flocked to buy that book in search of a quasi-intellectual defense for their nonsense.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:37 PM
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4. So many deserving students are turned away from
Harvard each year, and they let her in? There is no justice.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:20 PM
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22. This is what happens
when you give a stupid person an education.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:38 PM
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5. OK, I had to follow the link to find out what cow porn was all about
and in the larger scheme of things, it's more stupid than icky, but still NSFW.

This is just an example of an intelligent person who firmly believes stupid things and won't allow facts to get into the way of such a belief. We skeptics run into them all the time and it's infuriating. One will always seemingly change an opinion if new facts come to light, but nothing seems to change a belief and the more irrational that belief, the more strongly the believer will cling to it.

I'm sure she'll find her niche as a bible toting clerk to some arch conservative, just waiting her chance to screw up a Federal court when the next idiot is elected to the White House.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:53 PM
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17. Yep - she probably joined The Federalist Society her first year. nt
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 11:14 PM
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43. Oh, you said you ARE as skeptic, you weren't DESCRIBING a "skeptic"
"intelligent person who firmly believes stupid things and won't allow facts to get into the way of such a belief"

e.g. http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/papers/skeptik.html


Holding certain ideas dear in the face of evidence to the contrary isn't unique to one group of people; regardless of the "correctness" of their world view.



/end threadjack

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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:40 PM
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6. Cow Porn?
Do I want to know? Probably not.

She's proof that smart, well-educated people are still quite capable of believing some really dumb shit.

She must have a post-clerkship offer from a law firm. For now.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:13 PM
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21. As Warpy said above
...the "cow porn" in question was more silly than icky - nude women with cow-patterned body paint.
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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:36 PM
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40. Who knew?
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 06:49 PM by TheOther95Percent
Thanks for the heads up. I thought it might be somebody who got aroused by those California cow commercials.


:think:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:55 PM
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:00 PM
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37. #1 Some said my ancestors were subhuman and would never assimilate. #2 IQ tests fail to measure ...
.... a lot more than they putatively measure in the first place.

You know the story: The wave of Irish immigrants who arrived in coffin ships weren't just starving and sick, they were, thanks to centuries of oppression, often illiterate as well. They were so culturally different from the norm in America that "some said" they were subhuman and were incapable of assimilation, quite aside from being Papists.

As for IQ tests, I grew up in the Sputnik/Space Race generation and we got to know standardized tests awfully well. Before I was quite fully grown though, there was a growing body of evidence that those tests were culturally and economically biased. Children whose families didn't possess a full set of dishes due to poverty might get to school not knowing that a picture of a coffee cup should be paired with a picture of a saucer. Now we know even more is missing from those tests: emotional IQ, social IQ, musical IQ, and probably more that hasn't been perceived yet.

I know I've inherited a lot from my parents (sadly, not money or social position, LOL) including a dominant gene for dreadful eyesight that came from my father's mother to him and to us. There's a strain of ADD that crops up in the branches of the family tree, too. But if my mother and father hadn't been avid readers, I might not be a reader. We're all 4 of us bright (as evidenced by the same culturally biased IQ tests that shut others out) -- but how much of how we "scored" is due to a mother who pushed us, the fact that the nation saw fit to spend tax money on public schools while we were in them, and a host of elements that have nothing to do with our DNA?

My current favorite book on the subject is Malcom Gladwell's "Outliers." It is a terrific read, highly recommended.

One thing I am sure of: it's not a "black" or "white" thing in America, where all African-Americans not directly from Africa share "white" DNA in abundance.

Hekate

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:01 PM
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38. That's strange. While I went away to do something else in the middle of composing this...
... the subthread got deleted by the Mod. Imagine that.

Hekate

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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:32 PM
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39. Dayum. I never get to read the threads that get to be deleted.
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 06:32 PM by TheOther95Percent
Do I really care. Not really. And thanks for the edumacation about cow porn. I had no idea. I'm married so I don't know much about these sexual kinds of things. ;-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:41 PM
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7. Feeling a little insecure about your intelligence, stephanie?
Want to broadcast how ignorant you are in the process?..amazing how some people are their own worst enemy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:01 PM
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:42 PM
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8. Good thing it's just a few bad apples.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:50 PM
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13. Oh yeah. Just a few...million. And my very well educated sisters
are among them, as are their husbands and children.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:45 PM
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9. Wasn't Barack Obama editor of the Harvard Law Review?
:shrug:
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:47 PM
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11. I guess it's gone down since then if they pick any racist twit to be on it. n/t
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:51 PM
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14. Your point?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:59 PM
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18. He's African American, and he isn't stupid.
So there goes Stephanie's theory right down the drain.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:04 PM
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20. That's what I assumed you were saying and I'm glad you stated it clearly now
so that others wouldn't misinterpret. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:58 PM
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:45 PM
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10. dupe
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 01:45 PM by KamaAina
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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:47 PM
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12. Harvard Law Dean's Response


http://abovethelaw.com/2010/04/the-harvard-law-school-racist-email-controversy-dean-minow-weighs-in/

This sad and unfortunate incident prompts both reflection and reassertion of important community principles and ideals. We seek to encourage freedom of expression, but freedom of speech should be accompanied by responsibility. This is a community dedicated to intellectual pursuit and social justice. The circulation of one student’s comment does not reflect the views of the school or the overwhelming majority of the members of this community.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:51 PM
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15. Oh. I thought it would be "See? I told you women couldn't think."
:P
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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:04 PM
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19. That would be Larry Summers. The Dunce.
Glad to clear that one up for ya.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:05 PM
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:52 PM
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16. She has Devil Baby eyes in theat photo. And maybe IRL.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:01 PM
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26. or...
she needs a camera that auto-removes the red eye... or she should invest in some post-production image editing software, like photoshop....

or maybe she IS a devil baby, who knows anymore.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:09 PM
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29. Talk about "inherent stupidity".
Pot, meet kettle. What a hateful dummy.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:18 PM
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30. You should print her email: "I think my babies will be geniuses and beautiful individuals whether
I raise them or give them to an orphanage in Nigeria. "
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:20 PM
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31. she's a racist piece of shit and deserves to have her career destroyed.
I look forward to that. Let's do all we can to spread the word about this piece of shit.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:51 PM
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36. You'll be waiting a long time. Being a racist pig has never been an impediment
to success in this country.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:22 AM
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50. What you said.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:48 PM
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32. She's like the bride of Karl Rove. Her deeds are that foul.
Her evil is right out of the gospel of Lee Atwater.

Let's hope that her racist meltdown will alert someone of conscience to not let her into the corridors of power.

We've enough problems with racist politicians already in powerful positions in this country. Let Sarah Palin provide a much needed example why we cannot let a person such as Grace into a leadership position.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:53 PM
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33. Wow, a female lawyer that rivals Monica Zent
How Not To Bury an Embarrassing Story

Meet attorney Monica Zent. Back in college, she dated a guy who turned out to be a pretty bad fellow. In fact, he murdered his parents and a sibling so he could take over the family fortune. The boyfriend, Dana Ewell, and his college buddy, Joel Radovcich, were accused of murdering Ewell's mother, State Bar Board of Governors member Glee Ewell, her husband Dale, and their daughter Tiffany, on Easter Sunday in 1992. Zent was investigated, but no one could prove any involvement on her part, other than her apparent lack of desire to cooperate in the investigation that led to her boyfriend's murder convictions, and the fact that he used some of the money to pay for part of her law school tuition.

Eventually, Ewell was convicted, and Zent went on to dump him, complete law school and build a successful law practice (and legal blog). For the most part, people forgot all about Monica Zent's connection to the story. Then, in 2004, some fellow named David Loya found about about the story, Zent, and her new successful life, and decided to send an email to her colleagues. On July, 2, 2004, Loya sent an e-mail to attorneys affiliated with the Zent Law Group. The subject line of the e-mail was “Monica Zent and murder for profit.” The entire text of the message read as follows:

“Monica Zent’s college boyfriend Dana Ewell was convicted of murdering his parents and sister. Read about it by typing in an internet keyword search using Zent’s and Dana Ewell’s name.”\


more:

http://lexicon.typepad.com/lexicon/2007/03/how_not_to_bury.html
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:07 PM
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35. We need to remember that Harvard Business School...
accepted Geo. W Bush. What more do we need to know about Harvard. It is all about the Harvard Fund.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:01 PM
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34. She's possessed. Or a hungry vampire. Those evil red eyes say it all. nt
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 05:02 PM by Ilsa
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:47 PM
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41. K/R any thread about cow porn.
:yikes:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:50 PM
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42. Pretty face - ugly mind n/t
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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:34 AM
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44. Genetics and science
There are no skulls of the homo sapiens species found before 200,000 years ago. We find skulls of the homo genus prior to this, but 200,000 years ago is the furthest back homo sapiens (human) skulls are found. That is not to say definitively homo sapiens was around 200,000 years ago, as it is disputed if the Omo and Dali skulls are 200,000 years old, or whether they are in fact homo sapiens, but we go back no further than 200,000 years.

Looking at the Y-chromosome of many men, it is estimated the furthest back the common male ancestor of all people is 90,000 years ago (the common female ancestor of all is further back). 90,000 is the largest number, some think it is tens of thousands of years less.

Aside from skull shape, evidence of humans acting in a non-animal fashion - fishing nets, cave drawings, Venus figurines, goes back only 50,000 years.

Our genetic code is simply a recipe for proteins. For whites to be genetically smarter than blacks, that would pre-suppose that some time in the past 90,000 years from that father "Adam" of all people (some thinking him being less than 90,000 years back), there would have had to have been a mutation that made whites smarter.

I should point out of course that if one goes back in time one thousand years, Europe was in pretty sad shape, while civilizations in the Americas, Asia and Africa were flourishing. In 1054, the Eastern Christian church broke off from the Western Christian church - and in terms of civilization, the Eastern, mostly non-European church was at that time much superior, which is one of the reasons for the schism.

You also wonder what the scientific test would be that shows a white can do something that a black can not do. If you had a test which showed blacks were incapable of integrating a differential equation or something, I might start listening, but these people tend to talk more about the liberal conspiracy to keep the truth from coming out about this, how global warming is a hoax and the like.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:57 AM
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45. Anyone else think
she could be Backwards B Girl's sister? I see a resemblance...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 01:03 AM
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 01:05 AM
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47. Her parents must be so proud!! All that money spent for what?
Sociology? She apparantly didn't learn anything orrrrrrrrrr was she incapable of learning anything?:shrug:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 04:38 AM
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48. Ninth Circuit Judge Alex Kozinsk and cow porn
Are there any sane people left to govern and protect this country??
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 05:48 AM
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49. How does this idiot explain Michelle and Barack Obama? As well as many other smart AA people?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:35 AM
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51. That Was The Flaw In The Bell Curve
Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 07:36 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
There are larger I Q differences within groups than between groups. In other words there are some real not so bright whites and some real not so bright blacks and vice versa.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:59 AM
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52. Ewww....She's on Law Review?.....I may be paranoid
Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 08:00 AM by whathehell
But what's the possibility of some Right winger at Harvard, or with connections to Harvard, trying to "counterpoint" Obama and his Law Review past pushing for the inclusion of an open racist?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 09:20 AM
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53. K&R n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 11:14 AM
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54. She'll probably run for the Senate in four years or so. nt
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 11:15 AM
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55. Nah - great career ahead as a Faux News bimbo. n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:05 PM
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56. Could see that, too - or a combo - Senate, then FAUX, or vice-versa.
In any case, it still makes me mad as hell that there will be no actual consequence that will make her pause her "giggling" over her racist crap.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:14 PM
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57. +1
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 12:15 PM
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58. I'm not sure why it's news that a law student is a racist.
Sure, she's stupid and her ideas are asinine. So what? She's not being employed by the university or anything. The country's full of assholes like this. Why is this a big deal?
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