why I've never said anything about borders/immigration

and nor am I asking anyone to think as I do. I've just decided to say why.


I made my thoughts on 'borders' when I was a teen and haven't changed them since.

I figured human beings should be able to go any place in the world they wanted to without passports, papers, etc. because the earth belonged to all of us. that borders were made up by men. men being males. and borders always had something to do with money. money being owned by men.

but since borders exist, then anybody should still be able to go anyplace in the world as long as they obey the laws of whatever border they were in.

simple. go where ever but obey the laws within that border.

this would horrify moneymen. this would horrify moneymen whose money is in wars. etc., etc., etc.

I feel this way about all kinds of borders. the borders around the property you own. your personal space border. the border around women's wombs.

I feel that women the world over don't think of borders the way men do.

and I think climate change is and will change borders as they now exist.

borders is something I've pondered over and it appears in the art I've created and will create.

the border between the US and Mexico is made of spilled blood/death and the area needs healing and needs to disappear. it didn't use to be there.

Thank you.

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICANTS CONCERNING VACCINATION REQUIREMENTS

United States immigration law requires immigrant visa applicants to obtain certain vaccinations (listed below) prior to the issuance of an immigrant visa. Panel physicians who conduct medical examinations of immigrant visa applicants are required to verify that immigrant visa applicants have met the vaccination requirements, or that it is medically inappropriate for the visa applicant to receive one or more of the listed vaccinations:

* Hepatitis A
* Hepatitis B
* Influenza
* Influenza type b (Hib)
* Measles
* Meningococcal
* Mumps
* Pneumococcal
* Pertussis
* Polio
* Rotavirus
* Rubella
* Tetanus and diphtheria toxoids
* Varicella

In order to assist the panel physican, and to avoid delays in the processing of an immigrant visa, all immigrant visa applicants should have their vaccination records available for the panel physician's review at the time of the immigrant medical examination. Visa applicants should consult with their regular health care provider to obtain a copy of their immunization record, if one is available. If you do not have a vaccination record, the panel physician will work with you to determine which vaccinations you may need to meet the requirement. Certain waivers of the vaccination requirement are available upon the recommendation of the panel physician.

Only a physician can determine which of the listed vaccinations are medically appropriate for you, given your age, medical history and current medical condition. For more detailed information, please visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Panel Physician Technical Instructions for Vaccination.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_1331.html

N&U

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would have to obey those rules or not go into that bordered place.

what's not to understand?

People who bypass those rules and come here are entering the country ILLEGALLY, and some of those people pose a threat to public health by carrying infectious diseases that are not endemic to our country because we have gotten control of them, have better sanitation than most countries, and don't have tropical areas.

How hard is that to understand?

Sorry, you have to show your papers first! :)

Tribal nations had their borders and those borders were often the sites of conflicts with other tribes who wanted to expand their territory. There was trade across these borders all up and down the two continents in this hemisphere, but the borders were there and the traders crossed them only with permission unless they wanted to fight their way through the whole tribe.

The only difference was that the tribes never claimed to own the land, itself, only the inherited right to the gifts of game, water and vegetable foods that land provided them.

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one of the laws that governs the borders, determine how/when/who can enter those borders.
The laws covering the borders of my house is, no one puts their feet up on the coffee table. That doesn't mean any one is allowed to walk in off the street, and if they don't put their feet on my table, all is cool.

I don't think you would get a pass on telling a woman, that since you won't try to tell her how to handle any pregnancy, you should be allowed to cross her border, not with out expecting a knee in the nads. Ok, maybe Fabio could pull that one, but I'm not willing to risk my happiness to test it. :evilgrin:

That being said, if some DG co-ed wants to crawl up in my personal space, I'm willing to issue border wavers on a case by case basis. :woohoo:

and if you disagree you don't enter that border.

maybe you have to ask at the gate. and agree to that border's rules. but if you agree then you can enter.

I was speaking generally of borders not the specifics.

Both should be taken only in moderation.

the world has become a toxic dump and humans and all life is getting sicker and sicker. and man made hormones are changing the makeup of humans.

borders don't mean a thing any more re: health.

but by the content of their character." That is a dream. You are either in the wrong country (open borders are only good for Europeans) or the wrong time (50 years too late).

If someone is born a different race or gender or sexual orientation than myself, I know they have as much right to a job, equal pay, promotion, good school, etc. as I do. As Democrats, we celebrate this and keep working to make it a reality (which hasn't happened), not just a right.

For the most part republicans, celebrating these rights is not an option, rather grudging acceptance or continued resistance is their attitude. To tell a republican that they not only have to accept someone who was born a different race, gender or sexual orientation, but they have to accept someone born Mexican is just asking to much. (He will quote the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, but he barely accepts that all Americans are created equal, much less all "men". ;) )

He is already upset that he can't stop Blacks, women, and gays for competing with him for jobs, promotions and pay raises (he remembers the 1950's when white guys had the world on a string and the "others" knew their "place"), now you're telling him he has to accept someone born Mexican.

I think you see the problem. ;)

And task the person 'working it', but there's still no guarantee that they'll allow to cross-entry regardless of your intent to obey the laws *of their land*. It seems like every border is spilled with the blood and death of someone. Which is why borders are important reminders to some people

People, not necessarily you; but people who think that Freedom & Liberty means anyone can go wherever the hell they want to and do & say whatever the hell they want are simply light-headed and have too much of it wrong. It almost seems a concept only an American *could* hold http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/12/amy_goodman_detained_at_canadi.php

The violent cross-border activity of Mexican drug cartels into the US that RW Arizonans keep referring to is not in dispute its demonstrable. I believe Dems have a handle on this. But to be caught without such a handle is to invite RW claims of irresponsible mismanagement in matters concerning: America, law, personal/family safety, and national defense top to bottom - and those are just for openers

To say violent drug cartels are just people too and that they are merely filling a need by grating cheese at Papa John's Pizza cause they need 'a front' too in the course of supplying America with her drugs, ultimately, gives violent murderous drug death & chaos a free pass. So & Though while borders do exist, it may be best to consider them and the laws inside them

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/13/AR2009051303776.html

You can't follow the laws of that country that you entered illegally. You've got a disconnect here.

just as mean an often meaner, and just as selfish.