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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:38 AM
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Is Obama supposed to fly over the Gulf Of Mexico and use his super powers to collect all the oil?
They are trying to make this Obama's Katrina. There is 1 big difference. Katrina was a natural disaster and this oil spill is a man made disaster.

The government did not create this sitation, it was a private company. Let them get the blame and pay for the clean up.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:44 AM
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1. You have admit, that would be pretty freaking cool
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gov for sale Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:28 AM
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16. Cool would be oil lobbiest swimming through slick and plugging hole with $100 bills
That would be cool. They seem to be the ones with the super powers given the new drill policy. Maybe sellout politico's can swim out with them.
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imurhuckleberry Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:45 AM
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2. Well, if you consider faulty levee's breaking 'natural'
The hurricane had passed. There was no water in the streets. They were all being pumped out. The levees started collapsing and all of the water backed into the city and filled it up like a cup of tea. The pumps couldn't keep up and eventually failed.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:46 AM
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3. The Government did not require the remote emergency valve
that may have prevented this mess. So the Government did not to their regulatory duty. Was that Obama's fault? I wouldn't think so.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:48 AM
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7. Bush/Cheney rules. Drilled years ago! n/t
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:47 AM
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4. The reich wing blogs are asking if President Obama will do a flyover (like Bush)
or will he "get his shoes soiled?"

I don't know what the plans are, but the President would likely have to do a low altitude flyover to see the spill which is out in the ocean as opposed to Bush who did a 30,000 feet flyover of New Orleans while someone took his picture looking out the window using is superhuman sight powers.

snark on/ Unless President Obama will walk on water to see the spill, which he could do, but the freeps have not been prepared for that yet. /snark off.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:47 AM
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5. Yes! That's exactly what some people expect him to do!
These yahoos also wonder why he hasn't done it already.............
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:47 AM
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6. Obama's insistance that oil drilling was safe doesn't help him much
but it's funny, because the media and the right wing won't criticise him for that. Instead they have to try to find holes in the response.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:49 AM
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8. He and Michelle: Wonder Twin powers, activate!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:51 AM
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9. They are not twins
that would be gross.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:08 AM
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12. Neither are Peter and Lois on Family Guy, but it's still funny.
Edited on Sun May-02-10 10:08 AM by GodlessBiker
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:56 AM
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10. Halliburton may be at fault.
Oil services contractor Halliburton Inc. said in a statement Friday that workers had finished cementing the well’s pipes 20 hours before the rig went up in flames. Halliburton is named as a defendant in most of the more than two dozen lawsuits filed by Gulf Coast people and businesses claiming the oil spill could ruin them financially. One lawsuit filed by an injured technician on the rig claims that Halliburton improperly performed its job in cementing the well, “increasing the pressure at the well and contributing to the fire, explosion and resulting oil spill.”

http://theworldlink.com/articles/2010/05/02/news/doc4bdbd8c4da44e366180877.txt
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:00 AM
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11. I would ask yourself what Bush should have done when Katrina hit.
Yes, one was man made, the other was corporate negligence. But your logic doesn't fly when you say "the government didn't cause this situation, therefore they shouldn't have to do anything." Bush didn't cause the hurricane either.

However, in any disaster this size, it's not enough to shrug and say "not my problem, I didn't cause it." The government needs to step in (beyond sending officials to don working man outfits and pay a visit, I mean) because regardless of the cause, it is a national disaster.

In both cases it appears a legacy of a lack of appropriate government oversight and regulation was a huge contributing factor to the extent of the damage. In both cases, neither president took action to correct that legacy prior to the disaster. Obama unfortunately took ownership of this when he decided to once again play chess by supporting the republican/corporate position and supporting offshore drilling, despite a chorus of opposing voices warning of the consequences.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:15 AM
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13. Bush should have had supplies sent, organizations activated, Obama has already done that from day 1
Obama was aware of the situation, whereas chimp had to watch a video of the drastic situation days afterwards to realize people were dying in NOLA....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 11:09 AM
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20. Exactly. It is the RESPONSE that counts. Good grief people
HOW did mr bush respond to Katrina and the flooding afterward? How has President Obama responded to the oil gush?

No, mrbush did not cause the hurricane, no Pres Obama did not cause the oil like to break. BUT, HOW ARE THEY RESPONDING?

Has President Obama stopped individuals and other countries from helping? Does he have a clue what is going on there? Is he making bad jokes about it? Is he activating resources to the disaster site?

Can you say the same about mrbush after Katrina? No? Well, there you are.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:23 AM
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15. Granted, Bush didn't cause Katrina, but...
he, and everyone else, saw it coming for a week, at least.

And when it started to bear down on NOLA a few days before it hit, there was ample warning.

Where was Bush?

Playing the gee-tar and snarfing down birthday cake up in Bumfuck, Idamontanacolorado or wherever he was.

Blithely partying while NOLA drowned.

Then telling Michael Brown he's doing a "heck of a job" when he wasn't doing much of a job at all.


Can't even compare the two...
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:45 AM
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17. Many of us saw this coming.
The specifics? No. Just like we couldn't have predicted the exact time and location of the mining disaster, but many people knew it was coming and tried to warn about it.

Were you really unaware of the obvious effects of promoting off shore drilling? Do you really think Obama was unaware of those concerns when he flipflopped on that issue? Why do you think so many people were opposed to it?

(And then ask yourself why do you think Obama wasn't opposed to it?$?)

It's not like we couldn't see this coming, or didn't see it coming.

From a DU post from March 31st: "one bad oil spill would destroy the economy of the entire state of Florida."

From a DU post on April 1st: "The black sweaters and jackets they wore on the chilly Saturday afternoon symbolized what could happen to South Florida beaches in the event of an oil spill caused by offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
"The Gulf Stream would bring it here in 24 hours," said Ed Stroble, a self-proclaimed "green Republican" who attended the event. "There are alternatives to this."
More than 60 people showed up at Fort Lauderdale's beach to hold hands in opposition to drilling for oil off the Florida coastline. Called Hands Across the Sand, the protest is aimed at raising awareness about legislation brewing in Washington and Tallahassee that could open the Florida waters to drilling. Oil companies could drill as close as three to 10 miles from the beach.
"There's been a huge push to open Florida waters for offshore drilling," said event organizer Matthew Schwartz with the Sierra Club. "We look at the issue of offshore drilling as a looming storm."....."

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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:18 AM
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14. I would expect it to be a speech-preceding photo op
If so, it will probably be an excellent speech. Maybe Obama's "super powers" won't collect oil, but I imagine they will start to collect power over oil companies.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 11:00 AM
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18. If they didn't get the MSM to rev up the blame for this
they will surely pick something else. Look at the man who flew the plane in the IRS building they blamed Obama for that, for the Ft. Hood shootings, anything and everything the tea bags and the right wing radical republicans who now populate congress can get the MSM to blame Obama for, they will. And most of it is working. The democrats don't seem to want to fight back. The are so naive they think just because they are lies people won't believe it. But look at all the blaming over and over and over, people are starting to believe there is something to it.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 11:06 AM
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19. Correction: Katrina broke the levi which was man made and in need of repair
Both disasters were man made. The difference is that Bush didn't give a shit or mobilize national resources to help. Obama has reacted very quickly by sending national help within minutes of the disaster.

Only people who hate Obama are trying to make this his Waterloo. It simply doesn't stick.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 11:13 AM
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21. Kicked and Recommended!!!
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:53 PM
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22. Obama owns more of it than he would have if he had not endorsed expanded offshore drilling.
His policy decision was bad, and his timing was too.

This is not his Katrina, by any means.

But it is a brewing disaster and a wake-up call, at the very least.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:00 PM
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23. I've seen the picture where he's in his Superman outfit
Edited on Sun May-02-10 04:00 PM by HughMoran
He can simply freeze it with his super freeze breath and carry it into space - everybody knows this!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:02 PM
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24. The governent did fail in properly regulating the rig and the industry.
I don't blame Obama for the event, the disaster or the response.

But, he must see this as an environmental and political wake-up call to change his decision on expanding offshore drilling, or he will wear the accident around his neck.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:39 PM
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28. And that is the reasonable critique that is so hard to make through the smokescreen...
Edited on Sun May-02-10 04:39 PM by freddie mertz
Of phony accusations, nonsense excuses, and silly metaphors...

Will he get the wake-up call?

Can he admit a mistake was made in this case?

I certainly hope so.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:05 PM
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25. Do you know if he packed his cape and tights as he left DC for Louisiana?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:06 PM
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26. That would be the President Obama who just loosened up rules on offshore drilling, right?
It's pretty hard to paint him as an innocent in this when he's letting oil companies do things even Bush and Cheney didn't allow.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:31 PM
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27. Obama needs to BAN offshore drilling. That's what he should do but he won't.
Where's his conscience?!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:48 PM
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29. oil spill is a man made disaster-and what administration is tied into big oil?
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:51 PM
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30. What would Brian Boitano do? (nt)
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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:54 PM
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31. well...
Edited on Sun May-02-10 04:58 PM by greencharlie
not so sure about that...

Katrina was a hurricane, one of many that hit the gulf every year... the actual hurricane was strong, but not a record setting strong hurricane. Everyone breathed a sigh of relief UNTIL the next day or two when the levies broke.

In the days leading up to Katrina... the areas were declared in "state of emergency" by the Feds.

Up until it hit land everything was done OK.

New Orleans was not ready for a large hurricane, evacuations were not executed... the levy system was in terrible condition. The local government was woefully ill prepared, much of the Federal funding of the levies misappropriated.

Here was the problem. No one was prepared for what happened on day 2 and on... the Fed was dumbfounded, the local gov't pathetic. I mean let's be real, New Orleans is a city built under sea level with an ill maintained levy system that got hit directly with a big hurricane and a local and federal response that was non-existant for days.



Difference between Katrina and BP disaster...

Well if the BP rig explodes and sinks and the blow-off valve functions it's a disaster with casualties that costs hundreds of millions of dollars and is responsible for tens of thousands of barrels of crude dumping into the sea.

But a man-made FAILURE turned BP disaster into what we see today... a giant mess that will cost BILLIONS of dollars, untold siffering and death to marine life and devastation to the local economy of the Gulf.

Katrina was a natural event that turned INTO a disaster because of a man-made FAILURE and a crap Gov't response.

Bottom line, those levies don't fail and we're not talking about this today... that blow-off valve, if installed and functioning and we're not talking about this today, either.

I'd call this disaster about 80% of Katrina... causing MORE damage to the sealife but less to human life or property. It's hard to put words to what will probably be the greatest man-caused ecological disaster EVER to strike the seas...
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