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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:01 AM
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Is Big Oil gonna win?
We have reached a political tipping point.

Either the environmentalists win, or Big Oil wins.

Which way we go from here will be our destiny.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:05 AM
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1. until every last drop is gone, big oil will ALWAYS win....
I'm terribly cynical about that, I'm afraid.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:09 AM
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3. same here.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:09 AM
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2. The law of diminishing returns will kill Big Oil
Or make it change into Big Wind or Big Solar or Big Green.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:10 AM
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4. Yes, there is that built-in factor.
Eventually they won't be Big Oil.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:21 AM
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9. Big Oil is leaving the tap running so their demise will be even sooner
than what's been calculated. The bad news is their demise may not be soon enough to save the planet.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:25 AM
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12. Am firmly convinced the reason we didn't get wind, solar, green decades ago
was that BIG STATUS QUO didn't have the mechanisms in place to control the meters. Said long ago that WHEN the big cats at the top had that worked out, we would get greener power, but the 'new' boss would be the same as the old masser.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:27 AM
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14. Nader once said we don't have solar because the oil industry doesn't own the sun.
nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:39 AM
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15. havocmom used to say "we'll have widespread solar when top 1% gets a meter for the sun'
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 12:07 PM
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19. Pretty true and pretty said. The world we could have would be a lot better than the world the
the rich are willing to let us have. Maybe the consequences of misrule are reaching the point where we're going to stop waiting on our betters to lead us where we want to go.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:11 AM
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5. OIl trumps all. Never mind the environment - we offer up HUMAN LIVES in war for the stuff.
Oil will always win until it is gone.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:12 AM
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6. Just wait until they take avantage of their newly expanded corporate personhood!
:-(
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:15 AM
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7. Yes. Happy now?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:15 AM
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8. Not if we can put a Democrat in the White House and take back the Congress.
nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:22 AM
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10. That made me laugh
Dems are gonna save us?!?!?! I used to believe that. Yep, sure did.

I know the side I'm with, and there ain't any BPublicans over here.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:24 AM
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11. Actually all we need is a Democratic Congress that cares
The President doesn't have to be counted if Congress acts. Supposedly the Congress has more power than the President. Supposedly.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:27 AM
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13. Real campaign finance reform and safe ballots
no friggin black boxes counting (tampering with) votes
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:41 AM
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16. And regarding those two issues, what have we heard from the democratic party?
~sigh
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:51 AM
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18. and therein lies reality. No real change without reform, and no reform before real change
Crickets when it counts. All I hear is crickets when it counts. x(
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:41 AM
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17. dupe
Edited on Sat May-08-10 11:42 AM by CrispyQ
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 12:10 PM
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20. No
The bad guys, across the board, are going to lose big time. I give them one more Republican administration and the jig will be up for good.
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