The end of the wicked old Mormons

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/05/07/notes050710.DTL&nl=fix



This is the good news: many of the world's most powerful, hurtful, wretched old men will soon be dead.

Does that sound cruel? Unkind? I might be OK with that. In fact, I might very much be in the mood to not really mind at all if a whole slew of these nefarious creatures of sociospiritual corrosion were to, say, spontaneously combust, or be struck by lightning, or perhaps accidentally fall into a giant, roiling vat of Astroglide and turpentine and a million duplicitous prayers. Whoops! Sorry, Monsignor!

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There was Pope "Sometimes I condone child rape" Benedict, trailed by his pallid cadre of attendant bishops -- apologists and deniers, liars and prevaricators, each and every one.

When Benedict dies, he will have the pleasure of standing before whatever furious God he believes in, to answer for how it was that he knew for undeniable fact that one -- if not dozens -- of his priests repeatedly molested, abused and/or raped young children for decades, and he did nothing to stop it. How much does God believe the pope's argument that Vatican PR trumps pedophilia? Joe Ratzinger, 82, will soon find out.

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Look! There go the slothful, gun-loving ogres of the Oklahoma state legislature, recently ramming through two of the nastiest anti-choice laws in recent history, bashing mothers and families and the integrity of women -- and their doctors -- everywhere. Hey, it's Oklahoma. No one really expects much. But oh, degraded daughters of the Sooner State, the nation turns its sympathetic eyes to you.

But perhaps none of these fine and soulless charlatans appears as noticeably miserable, as lost, as openly insulting to the human spirit as the wretched leaders of the Mormon Church in Utah. There, I said it.


Because here we find a very bizarre cluster of powerful, pale, sickly old men who are now sliding back into view thanks to a new documentary, "8: The Mormon Proposition," the trailer for which is available for your deep sighing and open cringing right now.

While I have no idea as to the overall quality of the film itself, the trailer alone seems to reveal a fine-looking flick that, at bare minimum, details just how ruthlessly, how hatefully the Church of Latter Day Homophobes worked to terrify and intimidate its own uninformed followers into funding -- to the tune of nearly $18 million -- one of the most detestable pieces of legislation in California's history, not to mention the church's own "secretive, decades-long crusade against gay rights."
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mormon sect so that the old men won't have any competition for the women. If all you have left in your cult is a bunch of old men, what are the chances of the cult lasting very long?

He made the mistake of calling the Mormons a cult. I pointed out the fact that we could say the same thing about his superstition, for the same reasons. He defended by saying something about so many people believing couldn't be wrong. I countered by saying there are now a lot more Mormons than there were Christians in the beginning.
You think you get through to this guy though and it never lasts. He'll re-brainwash himself in no time and it will be like the conversation never happened.

The defining characteristics of cults are not primarily size or superstition.

Obviously *all* religions rely on superstitions. I do think however that at some point a group can become too large to exercise the kind of absolute thought control and segregation from society-at-large needed to be a cult anymore. Their tent becomes necessarily too large.

outlawed. they are separate and very very conservative. they are fundamental mormons who practice polygamy and toss the boys out to cut down on competition. I expect they will last until they finally breed infertility into their already damaged gene pool.

"The Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is a very liberal church that also goes by "Community of Christ" (Joseph Smiths original wife - who never supported poligamy - and sons started it when he was killed) - how liberal? They just had a revalation making it possible for LGBT members to hold any possition in the church and partake in all rites (including marriage - it's up to the local congrigation).

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it. I was thinking it was the one in Missouri. Perhaps not.

The FLDS and about 20+ other groups left around 1888 when the LDS church banned poligamy. The LDS Church still has people leaving to form churches that support poligamy (every couple years a new splinter group springs up arroynd a man and his family, usually only 20 people or so, but it still happens).

How good is that fact if the Old Guard pass their knowledge to the young folk who follow them?