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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:15 PM
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Florida DOE changing rules about non-profit status to benefit Imagine Charter Schools?
Sounds that way to me.

Imagine Charter Schools, a Virginia based company, is struggling in Florida. Schools they run owe them millions as their parent company.

SO...if I read this correctly Imagine Charters appealed to the Department of Education in Florida. The DOE, according to this article in the St. Pete Times, is going to change the rules to make it easier for Imagine Charters.

Imagine has been trying to qualify for non-profit status with the IRS since 2005. They have not succeeded. Yet it sounds like from this article that the Florida DOE will ease the way for them to qualify in the state.

I wonder why they would do this?

Districts question Imagine School's status

Imagine has yet to receive the nonprofit status it has sought from the IRS since 2005, and school officials in Texas, Georgia, Nevada and Indiana — as well as Alachua, Indian River and Palm Beach counties in Florida — have challenged the company's applications.

.."Faced with challenges from several districts, Imagine sought a ruling from the state on its nonprofit status. On Jan. 5, the Department of Education told the company it would develop new rules on the issue and invite public comment. Imagine officials say they're pleased with the result.

"The proposal is pretty much what we've always argued defines a nonprofit," Huber said.

The draft rules, due to be reviewed Wednesday at a public meeting, would allow schools to qualify for nonprofit status by demonstrating that they were operated for public purposes and "not organized primarily for profit." They also specify that individuals or shareholders can't benefit from net earnings.

That creates the potential for abuse, said Henry Levin, a professor of economics and education at Columbia University Teachers College.

"The problem is it doesn't prevent self-dealing," he said. "As long as you allow them to set any salaries they want, to put anyone on the payroll that they want, to pay for services where there is some association with them or a relative, there's just no protection in this."


The article points out that this Imagine School alone owes its parent company about a million dollars...with taxpayers footing the bill.

That money is taken from public schools and given to companies to run schools that are funded with public money yet run privately with little regulation.

So even though this is not the only Imagine School with huge debt...the Florida DOE is making it easier for the company to continue forming schools to take more public money.

That is just stunning to me.


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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:17 PM
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1. Wonder if the person responsible in DOE is thinking of going private sector
And hopes to get a job with Imagine or some other charter school group? This is not incompetence, this is criminal.

Are we sure that the stench over St. Pete is the oil leak? Smells a lot like Jeb Bush to me.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:40 PM
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2. It is most definitely Jeb's influence...
It permeates in a very unpleasant way.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:12 PM
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3. I suspect people all over the West Coast can smell it on the evening breeze...
Yep, smells like JEB
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:16 PM
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4. heh heh
Yep, not a pleasant smell.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:32 AM
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5. More: Schools districts around state are opposing these changes.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/schools/2010/05/districts-line-up-to-fight-proposed-charter-school-rules.html

"Districts line up to fight proposed charter school rules
To some, it might seem like inside baseball.

A national charter school firm asks the state Department of Education for guidance on whether its Florida schools are being run as nonprofit organizations, as they must be under the law. The department proposes new rules to clarify the situation. The company says the changes are perfect -- just what it needs.

But sometimes, a little tweak in the regulations can wreak havoc.

As reported in today's St. Petersburg Times, school districts across Florida are lining up to oppose changes they say could open the floodgates to for-profit companies seeking to make money running publicly funded schools. Among those crying foul are officials in Pinellas, Hillsborough, Pasco, Miami-Dade, Sarasota, Manatee, and St. Lucie counties.

Critics say Virginia-based Imagine Schools, which sought the changes, plunges its new charter schools into debt to the company, in many cases charging a 12 percent administrative fee and leasing buildings through its for-profit subsidiary, Schoolhouse Finance LLC. Case in point: the F-rated Imagine School at St. Petersburg, which owes the company around $1 million. (For its part, the company says it runs schools more effectively -- and for less money -- than public districts can do.)"




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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:39 AM
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6. In other words just say ""not organized primarily for profit."
That opens the doors to a lot of non-profit for profits. Will be a mess.
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