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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:31 AM
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Obama's Natural Choice of Kagan by Glenn Greenwald

Obama's Natural Choice of Kagan
by Glenn Greenwald
May 10, 2010


It's anything but surprising that President Obama has chosen Elena Kagan to replace John Paul Stevens on the Supreme Court. Nothing is a better fit for this White House than a blank slate, institution-loyal, seemingly principle-free careerist who spent the last 15 months as the Obama administration's lawyer vigorously defending every one of his assertions of extremely broad executive authority. The Obama administration is filled to the brim with exactly such individuals -- as is reflected by its actions and policies -- and this is just one more to add to the pile. The fact that she'll be replacing someone like John Paul Stevens and likely sitting on the Supreme Court for the next three decades or so makes it much more consequential than most, but it is not a departure from the standard Obama approach.

Why would the American public possibly embrace a set of beliefs when even its leading advocates are unwilling to publicly defend them and instead seek to avoid that debate at every turn? Hence: Obama chooses an individual with very few stated beliefs who makes the Right quite comfortable (even as they go through the motions of opposing her). As Kevin Drum writes:

"ight now Obama has the biggest Democratic majority in the Senate he's ever going to have. So why not use it to ensure a solidly progressive nominee like Diane Wood instead of an ideological cipher like Kagan? . . . . When Obama compromises on something like healthcare reform, that's one thing. Politics sometimes forces tough choices on a president. But why compromise on presidential nominees? Why Ben Bernanke? Why Elena Kagan? He doesn't have to do this. Unfortunately, the most likely answer is: he does it because he wants to."

It's even less surprising that Obama would not want to choose someone like Diane Wood. If you were Barack Obama, would you want someone on the Supreme Court who has bravely and resolutely insisted on the need for Constitutional limits on executive authority, resolutely opposed the use of Terrorism fear-mongering for greater government power, explicitly argued against military commitments and indefinite detention, repeatedly applied the progressive approach to interpreting the Constitution to a wide array of issues, insisted upon the need for robust transparency and checks and balances, and demonstrated a willingness to defy institutional orthodoxies even when doing so is unpopular? Of course you wouldn't. Why would you want someone on the Court who has expressed serious Constitutional and legal doubts about your core policies? Do you think that an administration that just yesterday announced it wants legislation to dilute Miranda rights in the name of Scary Terrorists -- and has seized the power to assassinate American citizens with no due process -- wants someone like Diane Wood on the Supreme Court?

One final thought about Kagan for now. As I said from the beginning, the real opportunity to derail her nomination was before it was made, because the vast majority of progressives and Democrats will get behind anyone, no matter who it is, chosen by Obama. That's just how things work. They'll ignore most of the substantive concerns that have been raised about her, cling to appeals to authority, seize on personal testimonials from her Good Progressive friends, and try to cobble together blurry little snippets to assure themselves that she's a fine pick. In reality, no matter what they know about her (and, more to the point, don't know), they'll support her because she's now Obama's choice, which means, by definition, that she's a good addition to the Supreme Court. Our politics is nothing if not tribal, and the duty of Every Good Democrat is now to favor Kagan's confirmation. Conservatives refused to succumb to those rules and ended up with Sam Alito instead of Harriet Miers, but they had a much different relationship to George Bush than progressives have to Obama (i.e., conservatives -- as they proved several times -- were willing to oppose their leader whey they disagreed). The White House knows that progressives will never try to oppose any important Obama initiative, and even if they were inclined, they lack the power to do so (largely because unconditional support guarantees impotence).


Read the full article at:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/10-3
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:51 AM
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1. Guess I'm not a "Good Democrat".
Fine by me.

Kick and rec.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:54 AM
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2. Glenn Greenwald is an enemy of the people. n/t
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:05 AM
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6. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:06 AM
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7. The president is The Decider. n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:08 AM
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8. Under the bus with Greenwald.
Long live Big Brother!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:20 AM
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23. If ever a person deserved a trip under the bus it's Greenwald
since he tried to throw all the President's supporters under a bus
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:25 AM
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28. Glenn Greenwald hates us for our freedoms. n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:28 AM
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31. I heard his fingerprints were on the Times Square bomb....
Wouldn't surprise me one bit!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 11:24 AM
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44. He was on the grassy knoll. n/t
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:19 AM
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21. A great friend to the new corporate citizens tough
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:18 PM
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50. He is an imperialist running dog. n/t
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:56 AM
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3. Diane Wood would have been great
how disheartening..
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:00 AM
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4. May our Higher Power bless Glenn Greenwald. A truly courageous American Patriot.
:patriot: :loveya:
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 10:35 AM
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37. +1M
thank you for saying it
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:01 AM
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5. Greenwald is a big Ron Paul fan.
He called Paul a defender of constitutional liberty. So 'meh' on Glenn Greenwald.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:20 AM
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22. That's not even his worst failing
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:09 AM
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9. Kagan will be a truly forgettable nominee and justice....
...mostly ok, but won't stand up for any principles but her own. Not a surprise...truly mediocre.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:10 AM
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10. One could predict exactly the opposite outcome and be just as
accurate at this point in the game.

A lot of people didn't think Ted Kennedy would make much of a Senator.

They were wrong.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:11 AM
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11. Glenn Greewald is the enemy of the left
Moreso than Limbaugh, Beck, and O'Reilly combined.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:14 AM
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12. With all the sarcasm on this thread, most will have a hard time believing you mean it....
A careful read of your prior posts assure me you do...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:15 AM
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:18 AM
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17. Sarcasm is dead. n/t
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:17 AM
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16. Smoke them out !1! nt
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 10:45 AM
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39. epithetic and hyperbolic non-sequitor
Followed by wildly speculitive assertion in-no-way grounded iof facts or reality-based analysis.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:15 AM
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13. This is so one-sided and biased
What is the point of just slamming everybody who doesn't agree with you? Well, unless you have a massive ego and can't stand that others don't necessarily agree with your perspective.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:16 AM
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15. That's right!
so now fall in line and clap your hands harder!

We don't allow critical thinking around here. Nope, no way.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:19 AM
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19. That's Greenwald's speciality
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:19 AM
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20. Greenwald is the Limbaugh of the left
he has his little Greenwalders like Limbaugh has his ditto heads.

Fortunatley for us, he lacks all credibility and most liberals are too smart to fall for his stupidity.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:21 AM
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24. I am thinking more of the Glenn Beck of the left
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:24 AM
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25. I stand utterly defenseless in the face of such powerful arguments...
No Mas...
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:25 AM
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27. You could go out and get more biased one sided hit pieces. They should be more
coming out from the likes of Beck, Limbaugh and Greenwald.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:26 AM
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29. Name calling
Name calling is a cognitive bias and a technique to promote propaganda. Propagandists use the name-calling technique to incite fears and arouse prejudices with the intent that invoked fear based on fearmongering tactics will encourage those that read, see or hear propaganda to construct a negative opinion about a person, group, or set of beliefs or ideas that the propagandist would wish the recipients to denounce. The method is intended to provoke conclusions and actions about a matter apart from an impartial examinations of the facts of the matter. When this tactic is used instead of an argument, name-calling is thus a substitute for rational, fact-based arguments against an idea or belief, based upon its own merits, and becomes an argumentum ad hominem.

http://mason.gmu.edu/~amcdonal/Propaganda%20Techniques.html
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:34 AM
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32. So you are against Greenwald for calling the President's supporters "mindless" among other things
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:40 AM
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33. I believe that refers to the people doing the namecalling, hurling baseless attacks
and accusations of enemy of the country instead of debating points of view based on factual evidence.

That's not mindless?

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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:20 PM
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47. Hello have you read your posts? It is mindlessness defined. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:50 AM
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34. I stand corrected. n/t
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:24 AM
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26. lol. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:18 AM
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18. Greenwald's support of the Citizens United ruling shows he literally should be the LAST person
to comment on a pick for the Supreme Court
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 10:57 AM
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40. "support"?
Edited on Mon May-10-10 10:58 AM by hiphopnation
Ugh. You need to go read what he said about Citizens again.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/22/citizens_united
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 11:21 AM
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42. and this
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 11:23 AM
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43. and this
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:16 PM
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45. Thanks for those links.
The MO of the name calling crowd is to disappear once you provide the facts that prove them wrong. You will find them on another thread posting the same load of horseshit over again. Rinse, repeat. It's like whack a mole.
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:21 PM
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49. I'm an old fart at DU
and I take looooong leaves of absence precisely because of people like NJMaverick. Uninterested in debating substantive points and content in summing up complex and multi-faceted issues in zippy and vapid one-liners. Why do I subject myself to this bizzare form of intellectual punishment?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:27 AM
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30. You are busy this morning.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:53 AM
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35. While I suppot Kagan on her own merrits, pissing off Glenn Greenwald is an added bonus.
Edited on Mon May-10-10 10:00 AM by BzaDem
Ironically, after Jeffrey Rosen wrote "The case against Sotomayor" and Greenwald wrote "The case against Kagan", both Sotomayor and Kagan will sit side-by-side on the Supreme Court. Maybe these pre-emptive hit pieces on great progressive legal minds will stop.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 10:44 AM
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38. What merits? Elitist supported by Kyle and Hatch? Those?
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 11:17 AM
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41. Yawn.
Edited on Mon May-10-10 11:17 AM by BzaDem
I could repost the many summaries of her accomplishments and views, or you could just look yourself.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:49 PM
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51. Excitement over your nominee is noteworthy.
And I plan on it, but signs are not looking good already for me.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 10:00 AM
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36. Glenn is really being a hammer on this.
Edited on Mon May-10-10 10:01 AM by mmonk
Good on him. He sees the bigger picture.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:16 PM
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46. I you could buy Greenwald for what he's worth, and sell him for what he THINKS he's worth....
you could retire and buy an island...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:21 PM
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48. Somebody talk me down...
and reassure me that she is in NO WAY related to THIS GUY:

http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Kagan_Frederick
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