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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:34 PM
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Far-Right Group AFA Demands To Know Kagan’s Sexuality, Since ‘No Lesbian Is Qualified’ To Sit On SC
from thinkprogress:


Far-Right Group AFA Demands To Know Kagan’s Sexuality, Since ‘No Lesbian Is Qualified’ To Sit On SCOTUS

Today, President Obama nominated Solicitor General Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court. Since she happens to be an unmarried woman who has not publicly commented on her sexuality and supports LGBT rights, many on the right are making assumptions about her personal life — and therefore her fitness to serve as a justice. Last month, CBS News published an online column by GOP operative Ben Domenech, which called Kagan the “first openly gay justice.” The White House quickly responded, demanding that CBS pull down the post and saying that the site was “applying old stereotypes to single women with successful careers.”

The right wing has been hammering Kagan over the fact that while she was dean, Harvard Law School “refused to help the nation’s military recruit its students, because the armed services discriminated against openly gay soldiers.” Conservatives have been using this episode to unjustly portray her as being anti-military and to add fuel to the speculation over whether or not she is a lesbian. In a blog post for the far-right American Family Association (AFA) today, Bryan Fischer comes right out and says that the media should pointedly ask Kagan, “Are you a lesbian?” And if she is, according to AFA, she shouldn’t serve on the court:

It’s time we got over the myth that what a public servant does in his private life is of no consequence. We cannot afford to have another sexually abnormal individual in a position of important civic responsibility, especially when that individual could become one of nine votes in an out of control oligarchy that constantly usurps constitutional prerogatives to unethically and illegally legislate for 300 million Americans.

The stakes are too high. Social conservatives must rise up as one and say no lesbian is qualified to sit on the Supreme Court. Will they?


Americans For Truth — a group “devoted exclusively to exposing and countering the homosexual activist agenda” — also put out a statement saying that Kagan needs to answer, “Are (or were) you a practicing homosexual or do you consider yourself homosexual (gay)?” Last month, Focus on the Family also said that it would not be open to a gay Supreme Court justice.

The right-wing assumption that if she is a lesbian, she will have a conflict-of-interest and be personally biased in certain areas is similar to the criticisms the right had against Sonia Sotomayor and the fact that she is a Latina. Media Matters has put together a video recalling just how low the right will go, as it did with the race-based attacks on Sotomayor. Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/10/kagan-lesbian/





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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:35 PM
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1. Because every ugly, unmarried woman must be a lesbian, right??
Fuck them and their sexism and homophobia.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:38 PM
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5. Yep. I'll bet she's nice to her mother too! Game. Set. Sexism. nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:39 PM
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8. She is also smart - a real giveaway right there.... Oh, yeah - and
what the fuck is the "Homosexual activist agenda"?

I certainly fear the "christian" activist agenda, but I do not know any reason to fear gay people of any persuasion...


mark
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:52 PM
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18. "Homosexual activist agenda" is code for
GLBT people being considered human, which is what they are opposed to of course.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:11 PM
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34. Yep.
Heaven forbid that they love, have families, are MORAL PEOPLE.

Oh, the HORROR!!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:01 PM
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27. +1000
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:41 PM
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10. Plus I would not consider Kagan ugly by any stretch nt
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:12 PM
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36. Well, with Sarah Palin as their benchmark...
:shrug:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:05 PM
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71. And?
Oh, you mean Sarah Palin is attractive?

Flies would agree.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:26 PM
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69. What's it to them, anyway?
Ms. Kagan's private life is no one's business but hers.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:36 PM
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2. They are nuts, you know
better to completely ignore them than to give their campaign the slightest recognition.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:36 PM
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3. It. Won't. Work. nt
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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:37 PM
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4. Can't be. Obama doesn't like gay people. Read it here on DU so it must be true.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:48 PM
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15. Yeah, I read it here, too, about a hundred times. So it MUST be..
so true it needed repetition.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:52 PM
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19. +30,000,000 n/t
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #19
46. +30,000,000,000
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:40 PM
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43. So is this the new gay people "just want their pony", right?
Gay-baiting like this is reason number #4393802 why I gave up on the Democratic Party.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:32 PM
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61. Bingo! n/t
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:14 PM
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56. So not the point, and quite dismissive of you....
Edited on Mon May-10-10 02:15 PM by Touchdown
What a surprise.:eyes:

He's your President. Not your boyfriend! Take the criticism. It's valid.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:39 PM
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6. Assuming she's confirmed, I hope she sits on the AFA's collective face.
Lesbian or not.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:46 PM
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13. "I hope she sits on the AFA's collective face."
I think one of the words in the quoted text is missing an "h"
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:32 PM
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41. *snort*
Edited on Mon May-10-10 01:33 PM by foxfeet
Why, you indelicate thing, you.

Edit: punctuation
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:39 PM
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7. Um, who defines sexual "normality"? (nt)
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #7
48. The people who just don't get it.
nt
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:39 PM
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9. There they go again - SEX
You can always tell a Rethug - Its always about Sex! Grrrrr
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #9
23. and their "image" of what a "proper woman" should look like-act like
blonde.....check

if not blonde, then flowing, thick mane of dark hair...check

skinny....check

looks good in red....check..

southern accent or folksy accent...check

must have procreated...check (1-19 to qualify..no more than a few adopted)

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:42 PM
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11. Try this: It's none of your damn business
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:45 PM
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12. Kagan will be attacked by the far right and the far left
Which is probably why I support her nomination.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:46 PM
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14. How many cats does she have?
Edited on Mon May-10-10 12:46 PM by Cronus Protagonist
Let's rate her on the lesbian coefficient of cats scale.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:50 PM
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17. Wait a minute! I've got 5 cats........................
Does that mean I'm a lesbian????? :) If I am, then my inner lesbian is trapped in a man's body.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #14
44. Wait a minute...
...gay MEN have cats...er...right?

At least so says an RW person I know.

:hi:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #44
52. No, gay men own little scottish rat dogs.
:evilgrin:
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #52
59. This gay man's little Scottish rat dogs are coming for your ankles
and dangly bits.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. LOL! Every male who read that is now in that defensive posture
they always get when they think of pain to the dangly bits.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #44
70. Well, I don't
And I'm as gay as the come. Not into pussy cats.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #14
63. What about a Subaru?
:sarcasm:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:49 PM
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16. Countdown to Greenwald agreeing she should go on the record in 5, 4, 3, ...n/t
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:53 PM
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20. Bring on the Senate hearings
Because none of this shit will matter.

This is nothing more than a blatant attempt to sabotage the appointment with smears before the hearings start.

Proof positive why the right wing sucks ass.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:54 PM
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21. Where is it written -- in their mind.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:55 PM
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22. I'm really looking forward to all the wing-nuts on the Bible fringe
Edited on Mon May-10-10 12:55 PM by activa8tr
making fools of themselves over this woman's personal life.

The "family values" and "less government" people.

Let them shoot themselves in the heart with this one!

GEESUSSS!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:58 PM
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24. They won't be happy unti a far rightie gets nom'd...they want another scalia
OBAMA WON...HE GETS TO NOM ANYONE HE CHOOSES....

Hey,..... they rammed through Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, Alito...

ITS OUR TURN
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 12:59 PM
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25. ""We cannot afford to have another sexually abnormal individual in a position of important civic
responsibility" Quote taken from AFA

All republicans have resigned en masse
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Who would the AFA recommend as a nominee?
George Rekers? :rofl:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:09 PM
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33. Yes. I wondered who else they were referring to.
Maybe Chief Justice Roberts. I have always thought he was a closet case. I wouldn't care one way or the other, except for the hypocrisy.

I know a few closet cases in my community. They feel they have to stay in the closet in order to do the work or community service they do. They feel they would be shunned if they came out. I don't know. It is a personal choice, as long as they are not loudly anti-gay.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:42 PM
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45. Then they should ask that Clarence Thomas is removed?
:shrug:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:13 PM
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54. Coke Can Pubic Hair Clarence Thomas is an exception.
He's been grandfathered in.:eyes:
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:00 PM
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26. Ugh- neaderthals.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:02 PM
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28. AFA hates her since she's a lesbian and for others she's no good because she's closeted.
Right now I feel a LOT of sympathy for Ms. Kagan. All I know is that she's an unmarried woman and that people are spreading rumors about her on that basis. If she's straight does it mean she's not complete without a husband? If she's gay does that mean that her current partner is someone she has made a lifelong committment to? Maybe, maybe not.

Would a man be subjected to this scrutiny? Would a man be expected to produce his current girlfriend to the public's perusal? Or would it be just fine for him to play the field, or even have a long term relationship with someone he wasn't sure he wanted to marry?
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:05 PM
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31. Cognitive dissonance much?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:11 PM
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35. Seriously.
My head is spinning on this. That's why I'm just gonna let both sides jabber about her to their hearts' content. And I'll just listen to her answers at the confirmation hearings.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:15 PM
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37. All I know is that
I don't give a shit about anything except her ability to protect the constitution and be fair.

But really, no man would be subject to this--he'd just be a confirmed most-eligible bachelor.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:22 PM
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39. Exactly.
There were rumors about one Justice but I don't recall him being attacked by ANY side because of orientation or closeted state. But this unmarried woman is enduring both and there certainly won't be anybody proclaiming her to be a catch since she's not 23 and on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:03 PM
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29. Well, inquiring minds want to know! n/t
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:07 PM
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32. Hawkeye-X demands that every member of the AFA have a vasectomy or hysterectomy
and be done with it. Less in the gene pool anyway.

Hawkeye-X
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:17 PM
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38. The AFA can go to hell--they represent a tiny minority of Americans
and they lost the election, so they can just sit down and shut the hell up.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:24 PM
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40. Yawn. In the the 60's they would have said no black was qualified
Edited on Mon May-10-10 01:57 PM by rocktivity
and in the 70's that no woman was qualified...

:boring:
rocktivity

P.S. Remember Hillary Clinton's "mannish-looking" aide?
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:34 PM
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42. So, self-desribed "teabaggers" demand to know if Kagan is lesbian?
Can anyone else smell the iirony?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:17 PM
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58. No, These inbreds have been around much longer than teabagers.
AFA has been around for decades, and always with the same agenda.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:45 PM
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47. My, my ... aren't they always obsessive about gay people ...
This morning on Fox News they kept saying "she's not married" ... "she doesn't have children". I thought WTF

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:59 PM
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49. To be fair, they do tend to ignore 'teh gay' when it involves a conservative
Have we heard a peep outta them about gay conservative religious-dogma-spoutin'-kid-adopting consultants getting tax dollars advising against allowing adoptions by other gays?

And then there are the rumors about the Chief Justice.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:01 PM
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50. I'll bet they want to KNOW about her sexuality...these folks are such crotch sniffers!
They are OBSESSED with other people's sex, not having much themselves...
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:04 PM
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51. Right! And, I demand to know is she is left-handed. No southpaw is qualified either.
It's abnormal. How can they make good decisions for this US right-handed country. They can't.

ASSERT:
It’s time we got over the myth that what a public servant does in private moves is of no consequence. We cannot afford to have another dexterously abnormal individual in a position of important civic responsibility, especially when that individual could become one of nine votes in an out of control oligarchy that constantly usurps constitutional prerogatives to unethically and illegally legislate for 300 million Americans.

The stakes are too high. Social conservatives must rise up as one and say no southpaw is qualified to sit on the Supreme Court. Will they?

1. Thank you for listening. 2. :sarcasm:
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:13 PM
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53. Uh, but did she go to Europe with a bag-toting girl found on RentGirl.com

careful where you throw those stones, you glass-walled, hypocritical weasels at AFA.

It's become quite clear to me that the level of animosity towards gay people is directly in proportion to the level of closeted desire they feel for members of the same sex. Sounds like a party going on at headquarters.

bleh

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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:14 PM
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55. What a bunch of assholes!
:grr: :grr:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:16 PM
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57. Not qualified because she's a lesbian??
Edited on Mon May-10-10 02:18 PM by BattyDem
:wtf:

Lesbian or not, what the hell does that have to do with her qualifications to hold ANY job?!? :grr:

Once again, I have to ask ...
Why are these people so freakin' obsessed with other people's sex lives?!?!?!?


On edit: Why does a woman have to explain why she's unmarried with no children? Men never do! :grr:




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FBI_Un_Sub Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:37 PM
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62. Based on 4 years living in the Deep "Old South"
I don't think that a real, old fashion, southern, evangelical, white ("Pecker wood") is qualified for the Court either.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:00 PM
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64. Justice Souter was not only single, he lived with his mommy!
Yet nary a peep out of the RW whackjobs. :eyes:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:11 PM
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65. Another "sexually abnormal" individual?
You mean like...

David Vitter, who likes diaper sex
Larry Craig, who cruises airport bathrooms
WAY too many preachers of all creeds

I have no idea of Elena Kagan's sexuality. She could even be asexual--someone who doesn't want to have sex at all. But compared to some of the weird sexual shit that goes on in the Republican Party, a nice sane lesbian would be a breath of fresh air.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:14 PM
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66. And Focus on the Family followed suit.
I confess that I haven't done much research on Kagan. One thing I do know is that I absolutely detest AFA and Focus on the Family. I tend to like people and ideas they hate.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:17 PM
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67. what i don't understand is why do they get to make all of the noise
isn't the country about 50/50, so why does their 50% get to rule our 50%. I'm not understanding that.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:21 PM
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68. Are you now or have you ever been a Lesbian?
Nice, huh?

Don
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