I find we are missing a MAJOR issue on immigration

What about exploitation of workers that are illegal?


How do we fix the assholes that exploit and use them???

...make it a felony to hire someone without papers. Neither party is willing to do that.

The states can do this for their own taxes, without needing the Federal government to do anything in that regard.

umm....



I think you are confused.

for each worker whose wages they want to deduct, you solve this problem. Mr. Farmer or Mr. Motel Operator starts looking beyond the cheap photocopies of ID that they're presented with, if it means they pay more taxes because they cannot substantiate that they were paid to legal workers.

When I say "undocumented", I also include all 1,000 people using the same fake ID with the same Social Security number on it.

Because until you fix that there are going to continue to be problems.

Bryant

Who knew?

it must be a rural legend

Corporations can hire the same people to do the same work, under much worse conditions and much more cheaply, on the other side of the border.

What do we do about exploitation of workers - all of us? we organize and we fight back.

This idea that immigrants are exploited and the rest of us are not is simply not supportable.

The only thing that could be accomplished by "going after employers" is to force them to racially profile to protect themselves.

Immigrants are consistantly expolited.

Your word is gold with me.

Since employers are unable to establish who is and who is not legal within the law, how do they know whom to exploit? Are you saying there are large areas of the economy where workers are not exploited? Are you saying that workers are not exploited in other countries by American companies when jobs are outsourced? Are you saying that when that happens it does not affect wages and jobs here?

are exploited here,and that it happens more than we would like to think

So yeah, employers in many cases exploited illegal workers. What did you
think I was gonna say?

No idea what you were going to say.

Workers, all workers, are being exploited everywhere. More than we think? I think it happens all the time. Immigration is people trying to escape exploitation.

for asshole to fuck them over.

Jesus.

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*employers are unable to establish* -- that's been the excuse tossed out to let the exploiting companies off the hook since this nonsense began.

Yeah, they *can't* run background checks right? They can't check to see if submitted SS numbers are valid, right? My DH worked in the construction business and more often than not the employer KNEW he was hiring illegals. Some of them even helped them attain fake papers. And did they stop when someone pointed out their workers were illegals? Hell no -- they just fired that crop and found some new workers to exploit.

People would NOT be coming here in droves if there wasn't work. Go after the employers, hit them with heavy fines, and if they are found to have hired illegals for an extended period of time -- put their asses in JAIL.

You'll see the BS stop once the people looking to exploit aliens find out THEY could lose big time for the few bucks they *save*.

THEY are the immigration PROBLEM.

OK.

This is dangerous and malicious lie you are promoting here.

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This country is becoming one mean and ugly place.

because unscrupulous employers will always be looking to hire someone else that they can abuse instead. And the well will never run dry.

the people/companies who illegally employed them.


Take the same approach that any other law enforcement problem would take. Allow the small fish to go free if they help you catch the big fish.