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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 01:10 PM
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Standing Ovation for Mexican President by Congress on AZ Immigration Law and Assault Weapons Law
Mexican President Calderone made some excellent points about Immigration when he spoke to Congress today. He addressed some of the causes of immigration and the violence on the border which he said is made easier by the Bush Administration's lifting of the ban on assault weapons.

He expressed his opposition to Arizona's 'Show me your papers' law:

Mexico's Calderon criticizes Arizona immigration law in speech to Congress

WASHINGTON - Mexican President Felipe Calderon took his opposition to a new Arizona immigration law to Congress Thursday, saying it "ignores a reality that cannot be erased by decree."

"It is a law that not only ignores a reality that cannot be erased by decree but also introduced a terrible idea using racial profiling," he said to cheers, mainly from the Democratic side of the chamber.

Speaking in English, he warned of the risk when "core values we all care about are breached."

Calderon has called the law discriminatory, and Obama agrees the Arizona law could be applied that way. He has ordered a Justice Department review.


Many people other than Calerone, have spoken about the easy access to assault weapons as contributing to the awful violence related to the drug-trafficing business. If what he says is true about gun shops making these weapons available along the border, then it seems to me that it is insane to expect Mexico to be able to control its criminals as long as the U.S. is basically supplying them with weapons.

I remember Hillary Clinton broaching this subject during the campaign basically confirming what Calerone is saying.

Calderon also got a standing ovation from Democrats when he asked the United States to stop the flow of assualt weapons and other arms across the border and reinstate the ban on many assault weapons that was enacted in 1994 but allowed to expire during the George W. Bush presidency.

He said there are more than 7,000 gun shops along the border where almost anyone can purchase weapons.

Calderon led off his 40-minute speech by emphasizing Mexico's war against narcotics traffickers that has left roughly 23,000 dead since the end of 2006.

But he added that "we cannot ignore the fact that the challenge to our security has roots on both sides of the border." At the end of the day, it is high demand for drugs in the United States and elsewhere that drives much of the illicit trade."


Why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan again? 23,000 dead since 2006 and the media rarely mentions this actual war right on and across the border but spend endless, wasted hours on failed, goofy would-be 'terrorists'.

As for those 7,000 gunshops arming criminals, I hope Democrats while they have the majority will replace the ban on assault weapons.

It is so easy to just be against immigration and to support what AZ is doing. Calderone's visit hopefully will make a few think a little more about the causes and how to fix them.

The failed drug war has not only fed the prison industrial business, it has been the cause of this real brutal war raging right next door.

Legalizing drugs seems to be the only way to end this ....














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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 01:37 PM
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1. the last thread like this got moved to the gungeon. nt
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:28 PM
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2. The 1994 Feinstein law didn't ban any guns.
Edited on Thu May-20-10 07:29 PM by benEzra
It prohibited civilian guns manufactured after 9/1994 from being marketed under 19 banned names, limited bayonet lugs and adjustable stocks to guns without protruding handgrips, and vastly increased sales (by a factor of two or three).



That's my own rifle, a 2002 model (manufactured, imported, and sold during the non-ban). Like all U.S. civilian (NFA Title 1) rifles, it is non-automatic and totally incapable of automatic fire. That magazine is also an early 2000's import, FWIW ($9.99 in 2003).
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:35 PM
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3. where did you get that tile? linoleum?
Edited on Thu May-20-10 07:36 PM by Caliman73
I like it! :rofl:

Seriously though, guns do facilitate some crime but they are not the cause of the crime. The cause of the crime is poverty and desperation mixed with the lure of "easy" money from the drug and other illicit trades. Eliminate those things and you eliminate 90+ percent of the violence. To focus on semi-auto rifles in regards to crime is like focusing on automatic transmissions with regards to alcohol related automobile fatalities.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:47 PM
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6. From my 1978 kitchen floor, LOL (n/t)
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katzenjammers Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:38 PM
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4. Well, I tells ya, that thing sure looks SCARY!!! Thing is, my vanilla 30.06 deer rifle
will shoot a hole right through it. :D :rofl:

(I trust you get my point here) ;-)
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:47 PM
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5. Yup.
Your .30-06 is about twice as powerful and has two or three times the effective range. The rifle above is about the closest thing there is to a detachable-magazine, autoloading .30-30.

I'm just wishing I bought more ammunition back when it was $1.75 a box instead of $5+.
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katzenjammers Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:58 PM
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7. I need to dig out my old Winchester 30-30 from mom's attic (hope it's still there)
it was my first 'high power' rifle Grandpa gave it to me when I was 12...I already had a 22/410 over & under, and also a regular tube mag 410 for a few years. I don't really know why things are so different now...back then (late 1950s) all us kids had guns and none of us ever got shot or shot anyone else. It just seems like the problems really began when our fearless leaders began to make it tough for us to have them.
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