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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:12 AM
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Are we intentionally not talking about something obvious?

I had been assuming that someone else would bring it up, but it has been over a month and I am not seeing it.



Aren't these deep sea platforms soft targets for terrorist attacks and could potentially have devastating effect?



I hate sounding like a fear monger but when you compare some idiot with a home made bomb in a car in Times Square with a professionally made bomb on a boat that is shipped across the Atlantic I am far more worried about the boat bomb than I am the car bomb. Even small aircraft flown "9-11 style" into these oil rigs could be a problem.


If drug runners can get their cargo to shore I would think terrorists could get their cargo to a platform. I would hate to think what 3 or 4 of these things being destroyed on the same day might do to The Gulf.
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:18 AM
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1. Maybe...but this result would probably only occur if all the safety measures failed at once...
..as they did in this case.

Katrina destroyed over 100 platforms. Of course, they had a some warning...but I would imagine a terrorist blowing up a drill rig wouldn't necessarily result in an uncontrolled gusher at the sea floor.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:19 AM
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2. The BOP on the wellhead would shut down the well if the rig was destroyed.
The recent failure of a BOP notwithstanding.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:53 AM
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3. I lose sleep every night over the danger posed by al qaeda's navy.
Serious? this is what you worry about?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 08:48 PM
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15. I think it would be relatively easy for al qaeda or a sympathizing group to get
control of a cargo ship or other large vessel. An oil platform wouldn't be a great target, but a carefully chosen canal lock, bridge, or port facility could cause a lot of disruption if destroyed by an exploding, sinking ship. I also suspect that the people who are supposed to worry about these things have had the idea as well...
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:55 AM
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4. OF all the terrorist threats
this is one of the lowest risk areas ever.

Those platforms have higher security than nearly all of the US military bases.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:57 AM
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5. North Korea torpedoed a South Korean ship. I wouldn't put torpedoing an oil rig past them.
We should attack NOW while the mood is ripe.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:58 AM
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7. I like the cut of your jibberish, sir. nt
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:22 PM
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11. The freepers were actually claiming that for awhile, I believe
There were at least some email forwards to that effect riccocheting around.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:29 PM
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12. There's no point in taking any chances. We know NK is an unstable state that can't feed its people.
We must destroy it in order to save it.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:57 AM
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6. Yes, we're intentionally not working ourselves into a lather
over a largely-imaginary threat. Fancy that.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:18 PM
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8. Since 9/11
Security has increased immensely around various forms of infrastructure. An AQ rubber raft would be detectable for quite some time before it got to a target area on the open sea. Then, they'd have to be able to accurately detonate something that needs to work a mile down.

So far, their bomb-deploying abilities have been pretty much lacking of late.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:20 PM
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9. I generally know better than to worry about everything in terms of terrorists. (nt)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:20 PM
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10. You can bet your ass, fuckwads of the world are studying.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:54 PM
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13. The moral to this situation is that any facility that is that vulnerable
to asymmetrical destruction shouldn't have been built in the first place. And, if already in place, should be deactivated and sealed up permanently.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 08:42 PM
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14. *All* facilities are that vulnerable to asymmetrical destruction.
Should we also get rid of all other industrial centers, oil tanks, tall buildings, large ferries, passenger aircraft, airports, buses, hospitals, laboratories, power plants, railways, bridges, mines, and so on?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:43 PM
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16. Perhaps I should have said facilities that are (1) highly vulnerable
and (2) have a destruction potential capable of significantly altering the history of mankind shouldn't be created in the first place.

No one facility mentioned in your list would rise to the same level of destruction as the blowout of a large oil well in the Gulf of Mexico.

Yes, any of those on your list could be damaged by terrorist and no, we obviously can't get rid of everything that could be blown up. Just don't drill any more deep wells in the Gulf. They are not, as the Republicans like to claim, going to make any significant dent in America's oil needs. Why take the risks?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:55 PM
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17. This seems like such an odd question
given the catastrophe that is already in progress.

Like asking someone dying of cancer "hey, aren't you worried about the saccharin in that soda? I hear it can cause cancer."
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