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DEAR EDITOR:

Common sense instead of ideology when discussing politics ... Or so that's what my liberal-thinking friend Mr. James Fell says. What a great idea. Let me give it a shot. Oops, sorry, I can't. I'll admit it, I'm a conservative.

Look, we all defend our positions using ideology. Some of us, at times, dig a little deeper and find some facts to help back up our positions. But in the end we all end up defending our ideology; Mr. Fell, me, and anyone else who gives their opinion.

Mr. Fell in a recent letter to the editor says the character assassination of President Obama has been nothing short of pathetic since he has taken office. I disagree. I haven't attacked his character, color, or religion ... just his misguided socialistic policies. And that's exactly what they are. It's the old liberal playbook of class warfare and wealth redistribution.

One of our president's heroes and mentors was a radical named Saul Alinsky: a genius, but a Marxist nonetheless. This guy had a real flare for putting together tactics used by the radical left. President Obama uses Alinsky's radical playbooks very well. One of them, ''Rules for Radicals'' published in 1971, I'll reference here. Read the unusual tribute this book begins with. ''From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins - or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer.''

These types of radicals are all anti-establishment, right up until they become the establishment. They have a thirst for power and they'll use whatever means necessary to get it. Plain and simple, our president is a socialist. He's out to ''Fundamentally transform the United States of America.''

Here's another Alinsky quote: ''My aim here is to suggest how to organize for power: how to get it and how to use it. This is not to be done with assistance to the poor, or even organizing the poor to demand assistance: Even if all the low-income parts of our population were organized ... it would not be powerful enough to get significant, basic, needed changes.''

This Alinsky guy preached to his followers that the poor have no power ... that the real target is the middle class. To illustrate that point, here's another Alinsky quote: ''Organization for action will now and the decades ahead center on America's middle class. That is where the power is. ... Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. They have stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois, degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized, and corrupt. They are right; but we must begin from where we are if we are to build power for change, and the power and the people are in the middle class majority.''

This kind of thinking scares me to death. We've been duped. It's time we checked up on all the people who are in any part of our government. Party affiliation shouldn't matter. Ideology should.

I had many problems with President Bush, the main one being he wasn't conservative enough for me. But talk about character assassination. What President Obama is experiencing now doesn't even come close to what Bush experienced. Neither of these guys is perfect, but the present one is sure a lot more frightening. I guess it all depends on your ideology when you compare the two.

Stephen R. Hosaflook

When I read his books (along with Hoffer's True Beleiver) way back when, I was totally impressed by his ideas and his humor. Who would have thought this guy would become the Troll under the Bridge for the TeaBagging Right Wingers?

Personally, I think SA would have been amazed to find he's being touted as the political godfather to President Obama. Obama is a politician who is smarter, brighter and more cunning than any of his opponents in using the system to advance; ALinsky was an idealogue (sic) who was smarter, brighter and more cunning than his opponents but who basically saw the system as the ultimate enemy.

Again, who woulda thought?

Did some other nutjob say that to him? You know, Limbaugh? Beck? Probably. He doesn't even realize it's not true.

the far right is freaking OBSESSED with that Obama/Alinsky shit. They all repeat his name endlessly and I guarantee not one in twenty has even the slightest god-damned clue who the fuck Saul Alinsky is or why a community organizer might be influenced by him.