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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:12 PM
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"Rules & regulations don't mean anything unless you perp walk some people."
Papantonio about BP just now to Ed Schultz on Ed's tv program on MSNBC.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:12 PM
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1. true nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:13 PM
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2. Excellent point...
Hollow threats get you nowhere.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:17 PM
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6. Yesterday, he was telling Thom Hartmann about Holder's background
He asserted that Holder came out of a law practice that represented oil companies. So Pap thinks that Holder wouldn't move to take the action necessary. He was quite frustrated with who Obama has surrounded himself.

But I don't know how BP can escape from what they've wrought.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:24 PM
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9. If there's no money left...
How do you get money from them? I see them paying their close circle of companies to work on this... I'm betting that flow of money is more like a gusher than a flow. We need a giant lawsuit... and to have their assets frozen.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:42 PM
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14. Pounds and pounds of flesh
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:24 PM
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10. Can anyone verify Holder came from a pro-oil background???
...I would be very disturbed to learn that.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:32 PM
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11. I think he said it was Covington & Burling
According to Wikipedia:
"Controversial clients of the firm include: OCP<6>, Creekstone Farms Quality Beef<6>, Southern Peru Copper Corporation, Philip Morris, and Halliburton."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covington_%26_Burling
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:41 PM
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12. Holder's exp is entirely governmental except for a brief period with Covington &Burling
Edited on Wed May-26-10 05:42 PM by librechik
a private law firm which represents among lots of other kinda liberal things "Clean Energy"

While working for them he represented Chiquita Banana, a corporate villain of another stripe. No oil cases mentioned in his Wiki biography.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:21 PM
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16. You "don't know how BP can escape from what they've wrought"!? Are you serious!? They just
do nothing, nothing is done about it, and they're off the hook! In fact, I'd be surprised if BP doesn't finagle a huge multi-hundred-billion dollar giveaway of taxpayers' money out of this.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:13 PM
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3. He's talking about how Atty General Holder should release the prosecutors...
....who in his opinion are some of the best in the country.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:13 PM
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4. If they don't get enforced, no one will comply.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:30 PM
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18. Worse, it creates a comparative advantage that works against those who DO comply
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:16 PM
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5. The hidden tool of power.
It happens every day in every state in America, the people in enforcement positions simply refuse to enforce the law. It is the ultimate solution, there is no story and no appeal. The victim and the crime simply cease to matter.
:kick: & R
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:19 PM
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7. Fat fucking chance of that ever happening.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:23 PM
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8. That's about what Pap told Thom Hartmann yesterday
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:41 PM
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13. K & R nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:56 PM
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15. Absolutely true.
WTF is this administration going to put someone who deserves it in jail? And I am not talking about two-bit penny-ante "terrorists". I'm talking about the real threats. No "terrorist" ever took out a coastline. BP did.

If the problem is lack of enforcement, then the solution is regulation enforcement to the nth degree.

If the problem is we don't know WTF we're doing at deep levels, the solution is a moratorium and extensive expensive research.

We are wasting our money on piffling threats while monstrous ones go unchecked.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:29 PM
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17. Something that the Obama administration has seemed quite unwilling to accept
Edited on Wed May-26-10 08:29 PM by depakid
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