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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 11:04 PM Original message |
Does American Success in the World matter? |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Is economic success societal success? n/t |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It is if you are in the bottom third of states.. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. If economic growth is meant to help society then that can be correct. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. What is the means to do that? |
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OJones (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. This discussion reminds me |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Explain why I would invest? |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. Explain why society should allow you to control investment capital. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Well, if they don't |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. But if your decision on where that capital goes is about your prosperity. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. What I invest in are |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
87. I am glad you find joy, and also glad you think |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Thanks.. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. Government does not have to take over production. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Well a few points |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. We think differently. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. I guess the basic question for me is why you would want to stop and change something that has helped |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'll tell you |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. First... |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You're right, local community is dead |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Your thoughts are very 1910ish |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
73. Capital was about resources. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. It provides stored worth |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. You are describing the fantasy you have in your mind. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Competition in terms of production and reward. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. Just in case you didn't get it the first time. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Classical liberal Economics... |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. I have to wait until tonight to read it but these words in the intro got my interest. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Please read it and comment.. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Well I have to go to sleep but I am 1/2 way through the essay. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. That isn't the point of it. It is the capitalism leads to peace |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. That's what I said. The US and China now work together and at are at peace. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
11. How is that future about the individual? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. A child could tell you that corporations, not individuals, have filled the vacuum gov'ts have left. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. The overlord will be... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Truly, we are in the presence of greatness. nt |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Just an argument about the World as I see it... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Right, but you're "turtling" such that you ignore all contrary evidence. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. What am I ignoring? |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Who said interchangeable parts? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Well not any job opportunity, with work becoming more specialized |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. You can be replaced.. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. And China and India have 1/3 of the human population between them |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. No, not at all. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
12. You ask the wrong question. What stake do Americans have in your corporatist utopia? |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Rather the bail out works or doesn't |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. "Irrelevant!" is the argument of a man who has exhausted his rhetoric... |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Because capital will flow where it can profit the most... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. Is English a second language for you? You've said "rather" where you mean "whether" |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. You are correct... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. Your arguments are vapid; I was trying to initiate some *useful* conversation with you. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Well, not really that young... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
14. Which conservative sock puppet is this? |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Not conservative.. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Not "conservative"--just a social darwinist who heralds the era of the corporation-state! |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. ahhhh... name calling... you are such a good debater.. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. You only need a 'safety net' when you're making people walk high wires n/t |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Call it what you want.. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. Those two items are mutually exclusive |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Business cannot work without the rule of law.. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. After the U.S. government corruption we just witnessed |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You are absolutely right |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. I wonder about your use of the term 'absolute poverty'.... |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Okay |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. OK, thanks.... |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Seriously? You're using China as an example? |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Read much history... |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Have you been there? |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I have.. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Also, just to point out... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. "China’s rapid economic development...has generated the most rapid decline in absolute poverty ever |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Agreed.. the facts are rather amazing... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
27. I guess there is some argument that if we go down others will too |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. I agree.. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
30. I smell a libertarian. -nt |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
33. The USA has been too "successful" in too many endeavors, most of them wretched. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Rather interesting but.. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Climate change and peak oil are going to clobber India and China. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Climate Change.. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. I see what you did there. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. No not at all.. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. OK. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hello Ayn !!!! |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. hahahaha.... |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. +1 |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. What are you saying with the +1 |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
75. missing a key element and a few false assumptions |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. There is certainly a mix that will make as more competitive in the global market.. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. India and China are catching up, no disrespect |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Not really... |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
76. Which America? There are two. |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. As much as I want to poor to do better... |
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