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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:49 AM
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After watching Rachel's report on the Mexican oil disaster 30 years ago,
one can safely say that there has been no learning curve in the industry or institutional memory in government of how to deal with such a disaster.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:04 AM
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1. They learned PR and the importance of keeping as many facts secret as possible
PR & marketing have gone from being a help to capitalism to being a cancer that is eating capitalism. Substance doesn't matter as much as PR & marketing in business and politics.

THAT is the one thing learned. And it dooms us all.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:43 AM
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9. The high-speed blather coming out of the Coast Guard Admiral on NPR this
morning was stunning -- he is going down to visit the coast parishes today to let the parish leaders know "they are being heard" and he says the Coast Guard experts are evolving better techniques for analyzing "the types of oil" washing ashore, and their processes for ameliorating the situation are being rapidly improved.

It's apparently all about appearing to have a process of some sort in place, and we are to be comforted that an Admiral is flying to the coast of Louisiana to serve as a Complaint Department.

We should be jailing people at this point, not paying an Admiral to peer at improvements in techniques for analyzing "the types of oil" washing ashore.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:07 AM
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2. Are you a leftist?
Who expects real change? Question: can you afford real change? Yes, or no?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:39 AM
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8. Is that a rhetorical question?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:49 AM
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10. eh?
Change is hard work. Can we afford to change?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:16 AM
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12. It is indeed.
The use of "leftist" is a red flag for me.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:32 AM
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14. Coming from me?
The left is for change, conservatives want to conserve what they got. We want something better.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:36 AM
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16. Boy, that sure cleared it up.
"Leftist" is a RW BS label.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:41 AM
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18. It is?
I guess liberal is too? Progressive?
If a RW uses a word it becomes all theirs?

Are you a leftist or a centrist, or a rightist. Or what?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:09 AM
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3. They use their money to buy political power instead
Greed is like that. I'm sure the CEOs believe mere Presidents are small potatoes, and easily put in power or removed. Their interest is only in exploiting the earth.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:10 AM
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4. but the fact that people tell BP their its daddy will stop the disaster?
Edited on Thu May-27-10 09:10 AM by stray cat
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:38 AM
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7. Oh, please. Can you possibly get more juvenile?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:12 AM
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5. Sad, isn't it?
That disaster began the day I graduated from high school.

I've learned a lot since then. The oil industry? Not so much.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:13 AM
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6. One thing exists now that did not exist then
The internet.

Then, we weren't inundated with the realities of the situation. Today we are because the media has to compete with internet coverage.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:51 AM
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11. "Those who do not learn from history..."
:(
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:21 AM
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13. Nine months. 200 Feet of water.
Incredible, isn't it?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:34 AM
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15. They dont learn because they don't need to...they aren't punished...
...and what they will end up paying will be a mere pittance to their profits.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:39 AM
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17. We have to look forward. n/t
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