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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:08 PM
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Oil Tankers used to store oil offshore to keep prices high
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:09 PM
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1. Hopefully this issue will get more and more traction
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:09 PM
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2. That, and refineries, are at an all time production low.. The demand is down.
I don't think its coming back either.. Its time to get off of the oil...
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:12 PM
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3. Kicked- and recced (which was instantly canceled)
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:16 PM
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4. any source more recent than six months ago? n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:07 PM
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8. That was a bubble. Iran is the big offshore holder right now. And other
companies do it less dramatically.

The point is that this is why it is difficult to round up a lot of tankers quickly. They're held in reserve.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:18 PM
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9. I'm just looking for more recent accounts
of this "hoarding". Verifiable ones, of course.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:04 PM
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11. See links downthread (post # 10)
that talk about the practice.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:44 PM
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5. That only works for a little while
Even if it's not moving, running a tanker costs money. Also, it can't be making it's return trip for more oil if it still hasn't unloaded it's cargo yet.
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FreeJG Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:48 PM
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6. Did anyone notice the story is from NOVEMBER 2009 ??
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:05 PM
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7. Other countries are still doing it. Iran is the big holder right now. This is to hold up prices.
Edited on Thu May-27-10 02:06 PM by Captain Hilts
Tankers are held in reserve for this duty. It explains why it is difficult to just hire a herd of them.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:49 PM
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10. BusinessWeek & Bloomberg
Traders Boost Oil Tanker Storage, Morgan Stanley Says (Update1)
April 26, 2010, 11:24 AM EDT
By Moming Zhou

April 26 (Bloomberg) -- Traders increased the number of vessels used to store crude oil by 75 percent last week as the potential profit from storage rose, Morgan Stanley said.

There were 21 oil tankers storing dirty products last week, 20 of them very-large crude carriers, up from 12 vessels in the previous week, Ole Slorer, a Morgan Stanley analyst, said in a report yesterday. Among the nine vessels are four in Iran.

Part of the drive for floating storage is attributable to oil traders, taking advantage of the reappearance of a contango over the past few weeks,” Slorer said in the report.

Floating storage employs tankers that would otherwise be used to deliver cargoes. Traders store oil hoping to benefit from a so-called contango structure in futures markets, in which prompt prices are lower than contracts for later delivery. Traders can make money when the difference in prices is greater than the cost to charter the ship.

(...)

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-17/morgan-stanley-says-tanker-rates-may-double-on-floating-storage.html

Morgan Stanley Says Tanker Rates May Double on Floating Storage
May 17, 2010, 9:39 AM EDT

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-17/morgan-stanley-says-tanker-rates-may-double-on-floating-storage.html
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:06 PM
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12. who OWNS these tankers?
that would be my next question. . .
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