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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:48 PM
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Anytbody watching America the Story of us?
As many holes this has... anybody notices ANY similarities to today in the 1850s?

And no, don't ask me to detail all the holes in here... let's just say the jingoism is all kinds of fun though.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:49 PM
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1. Which episode is that? I've been DVRing them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:51 PM
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2. The one with John Brown and slavery
it is really bad history... but I guess better than nothing.

Yes, I like a LOT MORE nuance with it, but that is a professional hazard.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:54 PM
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3. I know my history well enough to pick up on History Channel's "lack of depth & substance".
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:03 PM
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5. Did I say otherwise?
I'd expect a fair number of DU, not all mind you, to be able to pick them up.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:57 PM
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4. I especially like the veritable plethora of egregiously extreme RW talking heads that continue
popping up to give us a fair and balanced representation of our history. :P
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:04 PM
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7. Well I am sure a few righties would complaint about Mahrer and
a few other lefties...

As is, they could have gone to a few universities... and found I don't know, Eric Fonner for example....

Nah why USE actual historians?
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:29 PM
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11. I quit watching after having over-dosed on the likes of quintessential Newtie, Rudy, Colin,
and a few others blocked from memory. :D
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 08:13 PM
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18. The history channel use actual historians?
Why, that would be like MTV actually doing music or the learning channel actually having teachers teaching stuff.

Downright unAmerican.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 08:34 PM
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19. Well they do, just taht they are in the mold
of Steele Commager (business historian and a tad to the right wing)

They are ahem... selective on who they interview... you will notice that it is ALWAYS the same guy.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:04 PM
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6. The History Channel is not a reliable source for knowledge about history
It is such a disappointment that I can't bear to watch it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:05 PM
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9. Yeah but they did a descent job
Edited on Sun May-30-10 07:06 PM by nadinbrzezinski
of describing how divided the country was by the 1850s over Slavery. Mostly that one is difficult to white wash.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:05 PM
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8. Gonna have to disagree.
Where is the modern Bleeding Kansas?

There has been unrest in America, in some place, with some group.

I don't think we're anywhere near the build-up that happened before the Civil War.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:09 PM
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10. History NEVER ever repeats itself
100%

And the next civil war will not involve armies in the field... for many different reasons. But bloody Kansas did not come out of nothing. What led to Bloody Kansas took 25 years to develop. By the time the shooting started in the official civil war, took just over a generation to percolate.

By the way, I am serious, if you expect blue\gray to march at each other in a modern civil war, I do have a bridge to sell.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:30 PM
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12. I like the series
Overall I find it an enjoyable show to watch.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:52 PM
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15. I've been enjoying it too
The episode that got me was the one where they showed how the men who built the first skyscrapers did it without any safety equipment.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:53 PM
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16. Talk about scary!
Though I've always known they did it without safety equipment, it's still frightening to think about. I was also glad they brought up the Triangle factory fire. I read a book on that years ago, pretty horrific.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:40 PM
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13. What is really good is the Memorial Day
Salute to our troops on PBS
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:43 PM
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14. Not until eight locally
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:54 PM
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17. It airs at 8 and repeats at 9:30, Pacific
Co-hosts are Gary Sinise and Joe Mantegna. Guests include Colin Powell, lionel Richie, Brad Paisley, Dennis Haysbert, Katherine Jenkins, Kelli O'Hara, and Yolanda Adams. Jack Everly conducts the National Symphony Orchestra.

Thanks to Bitwit1234 for the heads-up!

:patriot:
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