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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:18 PM
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39% Of Americans Support Impeachment - 55% Don't Give A Shit
Edited on Tue May-08-07 03:19 PM by kpete
May 08, 2007
Four in Ten Back Impeachment

A new Insider Advantage poll finds that 39% of Americans support the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, while 55% oppose such a measure.

"But the biggest news from this survey is not the overall results, but the opinions of independent voters, who usually decide presidential elections. Forty-two percent of independents want Bush and Cheney impeached. These aren't just voters who disapprove of the White House. Instead, they're for initiating a process that could remove them from office."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/05/08/four_in_ten_back_impeachment.html
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:19 PM
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1. That number is HIGH
If the Democrats actually begin to push for impeachment, "put it on the table", at least, that number will only climb.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:07 AM
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22. I think it's higher than the percentage that supported impeaching Clinton.
And the GOP got it through the Congress. What the hell are we waiting for? :shrug:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:54 AM
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26. Actually, I believe it's about the same.
It was in the neighborhood of 35-40%
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:25 PM
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2. I'm stunned it's that high
Actually, I'm surprised that many people know what "impeachment" is. I'm impressed!
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:50 PM
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9. I bet they dont know what it means.
They probably think it removes Bush from office.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:30 PM
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3. I guess that's the 39% who have been paying attention, right?
It would be a lot higher if more people knew how the Bush administration has been destroying this country.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:30 PM
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4. That is a huge % ....
Edited on Tue May-08-07 03:33 PM by Botany
.... just a matter of time.

On Conyers, On Waxman, and Pat Leahy is on the ball
First Fitzmas ....
and now comes impeachment .... impeachment ....
they are gonna fall.

The crimes they committed are more than a few ....
look @ Condi & Rove they are afraid to talk
about what they knew.

And look @ the bully bush hiding behind his men
the son of bitch lied to start a war ....
Chickenhawk bastard he is not a man
but a hen.

Remember this now and think about this later
the truth will cook these bastards
just like a baked per-tater.



BTW 8/22/07 for my day in the impeachment pool.



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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:38 PM
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5. That's climbed since last fall
A Newsweek poll last October showed 28 percent of all Americans said impeachment should be a top priority.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15357623/site/newsweek/page/2/
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:41 PM
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6. How many of those 55%, as opposed to opposing impeachment
for it's merits, actually support Pelosi in her politics?

Let's get some real leadership.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:44 PM
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7. This is excellent news! I'm surprised the numbers are that high!
It means that people are starting to ignore the 24/7 news of rich white sluts and starting to pay attention to what's actually going on in the world!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:49 PM
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8. They infiltrated BOEs & the DOJ, do you really think rove would ignore pollsters?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:09 PM
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11. True but there are more of us then there is of "them"
We have to outwork ... out hustle ... and out fight them.

Very soon the repugs will lead the charge to get bush.

Right now they are moving the deck chairs on the Titanic.

peace
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:22 PM
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12. We're ok in OH w Brunner at the helm, but we have to look at states w partisan
"loyal bu$hies" as SOS. These will be rove's target states. Has anyone posted a thread on where these SOS might operate?

ps looks like a magnificent year for my bottle brush buckeyes!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:08 PM
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10. Isn't that higher than public support for impeaching Clinton?
:wow:

wait, I know it was.

He had a 65% approval rating when those rat bastards tried to convict him after he was impeached!!
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:24 PM
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14. Yeah, it is.
And impeaching Clinton was an awful idea.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:23 PM
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13. Okay, so are we going to stop making the claim
that the American people demand impeachment now?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:56 PM
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17. Because they don't have a clue.
Edited on Tue May-08-07 04:57 PM by mmonk
I really hate that impeachment is thus far not on the table. It makes democrats complicit in the last few years in my eyes. My trust once lost is gone. And nobody is paying attention to the hearings except political junkies and they won't until its covered more intensely by the protective media.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:14 PM
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19. 40% is nothing to sneeze at, considering it's 'off the table'
If the Democrats show some leadership, the rest will follow.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:44 AM
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24. No. "Dick's Good Ole Georgia Poll" Does Not Trump Newsweek/Princeton Survey
This pre-election poll still stands:



With 51% wanting impeachment as a priority.

Especially so, since a more recent (euphemized) Newsweek poll showed 58% just wanting the bushcheney regime "over."

The demand is there, and growing.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:36 PM
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15. Good news. K&R.
The bandwagon effect can sometimes be America's little helper.

Got to get it on the TEEVEE, though.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:38 PM
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16. 39%--almost half. Pretty dang good. I'm encouraged.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:19 AM
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34. 42% of Independents. That's interesting. n/t
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:59 PM
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18. Hmmm, 39% support impeachment and Dubya has a 28% approval rating. Why am I in the "Fringe" again?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:43 PM
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20. Eventually, NOT impeaching Bush/Cheney could be a political albatross ...
... for the Dems. Though the clock may run out before enough people wake up.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:55 PM
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21. It is gone all the way to 50% but these numbers
I will remind people are without 24\7 "news" coverage.

With Clinton's the nubmers naver got out of the low 30s and they had 24\7 coverage
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:32 AM
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23. This seems to be a Very Republican polling outfit
And could even be just a "Georgia only" poll or even a push poll. (I can't find their questions, methods, or "weighting" values.)

Still, even this number has them terrified -- trotting out the "backlash bogeyman" and the oxymoronic comparison to the Clinton farce.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:52 AM
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25. A Question For The Class...
What's more important...putting more and more restrictions on this regime that forces them to bring our troops home or a meaningless (and yes, it's political...no criminal implications here) 4 month show trial that would be portrayed by the corporate media as a Democratic Party power grab?

Or...how about investigating all the real crimes going on that is destroying our Justice system or Military or a 3 month or longer period of gridlock where all is consumed with just one person while the rest of the rats jump ship and get away clean?

"55% don't give a shit?" Spare me. Some of us see how Impeachment will do more harm to our causes than good. How it doesn't bring the justice many believe it will...all it is is a "feel good" game of vengence that does not bring this regime to account for all the REAL, not political, crimes its committed. And again, this mean less than zero if there's not a conviction in the Senate...and I still don't see 67 votes...cause the corporate media will portray this as a major Democratic party loss...a real good feeling going in the '08 elections, no??

Of that "55% of us who don't give a shit"...there are some who think Impeachment isn't good enough...only a full trial in the Hague begins to address what's happened here.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:32 AM
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30. I vote for the meaningless show trial
The effort, if strong enough, can move the other mountains you mentioned. Right now, those devils are competing to see who can be most like Ronald Reagan. Do you want to spend your old age watching Republicans compete to see who can be most like the Great GW Bush? The next Great Decider?

Then we should do something about it now.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:22 AM
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32. Actually I Would Like Them To Run As The Next "Decidererer"
History will write the ultimate story of this regime's corruption and ineptitude. We are too close to the forest now, but I suspect in a decade ahead the list of crimes and fraud committed by this regime will relegate it to not just the ashheap of history but will create a politically radioactive glow that similar to that that eminated following Hoover. It's already happening.

Thanks to this regime, the long-assumed Repugnican and Conservative chestnuts have been not just debunked but proven over time to be destructive. The mismanagement of the military and this invasion, the ruins of an economy rife with record high oil prices and debt (we still haven't felt that earthquake, yet) that is destroying what little is left of the middle class and the total poisoning of the political dynamic will be this regime's legacy...and one that won't be easy to wash away.

Of course the 10 dwarfs were sucking up to St. Raygun...what else do they have? And how many people agree that Raygun was some great savior? It's like the "New Deal" Democrats of my younger days...those who idolized Roosevelt and some became the "Raygun Democrats"...but most lived in the past while the rest of the people moved on. This was virtual whistling past the graveyard.

We are doing something about it right now...but one has to consider where we were, where we are and where we need to go. A year ago, if anyone had told either of us the Democrats would control both houses, I don't think we would have taken that predition seriously. The Democrats dug themselves into a massive hole following '02 & '04 and we're just starting to get our feet. The problem is if we try to run to fast, we stumble.

I have faith in the work of Chairman Waxman and the many other dedicated investigators who are starting to peel away the onion of corruption here. This is a mess that is beyond just one man or two or even a dozen. Lives have been squandered, billions have been pilfered and whomever takes over in '09 will have a major mess to clean up.

While I feel your frustration, and I've said that if the votes were there, I'd go along with the gesture, I see a bigger picture here that needs to be taken into perspective. I only wish the worst crimes we had to deal with were of the political kind.

Cheers...
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:14 AM
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33. I say forge ahead
We agree on most things. The small point we disagree on is the same one most DU'ers can't agree on: What comes first, the effort or the votes?

I say 'if we forge ahead, the votes will be there.' You seem to say 'if the votes were there, we should forge ahead.'

In my opinion, you are not seeing a bigger picture, but a smaller one: political expediency for today. Yet another reason we got crushed in previous years, and yet another reason we can't seem to stop a hugely unpopular war, even though Bush is on the ropes and we have a majority in both houses.

Side point: We really need to increase the use of the word 'crime' with regard to the Bush admin's activities. That will move the numbers for you overnight.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:12 AM
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27. Great numbers considering we haven't even brought it up
Imagine if our party leaders actually did their jobs and pressed this issue. How high would the numbers be then?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:48 AM
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28. 39 % support impeachment
shouldn't this number be higher, doesn't anyone give a shit about what is happening in OUR COUNTRY? (excluding those of us who do care in my comment). Enough is enough. Everyday there is more blood on our hands of innocent Iraqis, dead children and dead journalists, and of course our military who cannot keep up with this pace of destruction.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:28 AM
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29. Cause there's no leadership on the issue
Very few supported invading Iraq until Bush pressed the issue. His efforts made a big difference in his favor.

If we want to see huge numbers supporting impeachment, we will need our party leadership to take this issue seriously and make a strong case. At the moment, they don't seem inclined to bother.

Just my opinion.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:19 AM
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31. Get back to be when it's 67% of the Senate
Until then it's all whistling Dixie.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:20 AM
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35. Some people jus want to sit around while others do all the heavy
whistling. :)
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