Jon Voight condemns those who speak badly of Bush.

No kidding .. he was on MSNBC earlier. I'd have sworn he was one of the good guys.

is 19 fucking 84 redux.

:eyes:

That's what he is implying. ASS****!

and we will speak of him no more!:dem:

Like for a third tour?

Anyone have his email or phone number?

Angelina Jolie.

estranged from her father because of his 'infidelities'. She's a joke--and I
don't care how many kids she's adopted. She's still a joke.

or would that make us "jokes" too?

From the time she wore a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood around her neck,
she's seemed a little strange to me.

...titled Getting the Fuck Away From All These Peacenik Bush-Haters.

:woohoo:

Carefully scripted, edited, and prerecorded with accompanying split-screen video of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and other Dems to match Voigt's talking points. He mentions 9/11 and the video clip amazingly cuts to a flag at ground zero. This was essentially a Republican TV ad. Garbage.

I understand about 12% of the people agree with his opinion. Let him rave if he wishes. There'll be less who agree with him tomorrow, and lesser still next week. Let him exercise his 1st Amendment right, even if he chooses to use it to try to deny me my opportunity at the same right. Fortunately, he discredits himself more than he condemns me.

I have the right to condemn his position and to support the position of other Hollywood personalities like Sean Penn and Michael Moore.

our belief that everyone should have the opportunity to state their opinion, and in that free exchange reach consensus. It's what the grand experiment is all about.


An aside, aint_no_life_nowhere: What's your avatar? People you know?

and after which he became a "guest" of the Third Reich. The plane is the "Mary Ruth". The photo appears in the compilation of World War II news stories written by John Steinbeck, entitled "Once There Was A War". Steinbeck covered my father's B-17 in England, among other reporting assignments that he had. My father was the co-pilot and the pilot was a personal friend of Steinbeck's, the latter which I guess explains why he was writing about this particular crew.

Tail number 42-29536, a B-17F, assigned to the 401st Bomb Squadron, 91st Bomb Group, piloted by Lt. Kenneth L Brown.

Your father must have been 2nd Lieutenant James H. Quenin of Fort Smith, Arkansas.





The Mary Ruth was shot down 22 June 1943 on her 8th combat mission. She fell to the earth in a forest 4 kilometers west of the small village of Wulfen in the Ruhr Valley of Germany, gunned down by Fock-Wolfe 190s. Two crew members killed, the rest captured.

2Lt. Quenin broke both legs floating down on a parachute after the bail-out, eventually crashing into a barn and dangling there. Adding insult to injury, the German infantry capturing him also shot him in a leg in the process.

The surviving crew members spent the remainder of the war as POWs, except for 2Lt. Quenin, whose injuries led to him being returned to US forces via Portugal in Febuary 1944.

2Lt. Quenin recovered and stayed in the Air Force, taking part in the Berlin Airlift, retiring at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel during the Vietnam War and wound up selling real estate in Costa Mesa, California.

http://www.91stbombgroup.com/Mary_Ruth_Chapter_9.htm

http://www.91stbombgroup.com/indexmaryruth.html

http://www.ideals.uiuc.edu/html/2142/183/love_story.html


If your father is still alive, ANLN, please send him my respects. :patriot:

<edit: tried to add a third pic, but it didn't work, so I added a link instead>

...John?

again...the fear of falling into hell pushed by Voight :scared:

Some of Angelina Jolie's actions and revelations are hallmarks of childhood sexual
abuse.

I've seen her in interviews, admitting that she's a "cutter". She's also said,
"I was very sexual in kindergarten". And let's not forget the public make-out
sessions with her brother. When boundaries are blurred in families--sexual
acting out like this is typical.

She's also estranged from her father. An interviewer asked her the reason for the
estrangement and she replied, "He knows damn well why".

She's also become more adamant about not seeing her father since she's had children.

Voigt has publicly exploited Angelina and embarrassed her--calling press conferences
to beg her to talk with him. The man is a narcissist.

I have no proof that Voigt sexually abused his daughter. However, she exhibits classic
traits and behaviors typical of many survivors.

It really doesn't surprise me that such a person would be a Bush supporter. Aren't
all of the raging pedophiles in Junior's corner?

I think she is a complex person and clearly there has been much pain there with her father....

you must be a Seinfeld fan. :thumbsup:

I loved that episode. :-)

Enemy of the State indeed!!!

:shrug:

We're suppose to cower and take what ever that fooking' deceiver says? The asshole works for We The People, jon.

I alway thought his daughter should try and mend fences with him when I read she didn't want to have anything to do with him because there's only so much energy for things in your life.

Now I'm beginning to understand why she doesn't want to put out the energy. She was suppose to be upset with him for the way he treated her mother.

:hi:

:toast:

At that point, I mumbled to myself - I shoulda believed you the first time, Angelina.

Really. I will.

:eyes:

I had thought it was perhaps not a good thing for her to be estranged for him and he did a good job of making himself out to be a kind of suffering martyr. To her good credit I've not seen her explain the rift, air the dirty laundry or justify her position. It did leave questions and apparently she was OK with this. Good for her.

http://www.radaronline.com/features/2007/04/jon_voight_1.php

A taste:

Q: Was the Iraq war part of the war on terror before we got there?

Voight: I'm interested in talking about this, but it's been so politicized, it's very disturbing, very dangerous. My view of it is this: they say our president lied to us. Well, he didn't lie to us, everybody else had the information he had, and they voted for that tactic. And the idea of weapons of mass destruction, whether they were in fact removed to other places, to Lebanon, to Syria, that's still in play, we don't know the full answer of where all that stuff went, because they had it, they have the pieces. Now, whether someone else has them or whether we're playing a careful game not to reveal that we know where things are, that's another big aspect of it. The Administration's in a tough spot, because if they say they know where these pieces are, and they can't get at them, they're alerting other energies to know where they are.

What a deluded authoritarian! That whole, "Father-knows-best" attitude towards government. If the government lies to us, covers up, or even steals from us, that's okay because it's for our own good, right John? Fear, fear, terra, terra!

that it is terrible to see how awfully our president is criticized, and why? For political gain, that's all! Because others want to seize power! All you can say about people like that is that THEY MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN SEPTEMBER 11...

*big, heaving sigh*

Not really, and it's none of my beeswax; but you know what I mean.
Too bad.

I always wondered what the problem was. Now I get it.

Don't we all have our own minds? (rhetorical question).

Give the geezer some space.

:shrug:

this is a man who uses free speech telling others they should not use their free speech???????

fuck him..it is our obligation as Americans bestowed upon us by the constitution..maybe that fucker ought to read it instead of his mormon scripts!

fuck him!!

i was furious! AND STILL AM!

FLY

Forever scolding those who "show disrespect for the president". They never say "Bush"... always "the president". I don't recall hearing such phrases uttered when Bill Clinton was in the throes of scandal. Do you?

NT

Sounds like he's desperately trying to re-establish himself.

Asshole. No wonder he's estranged from his daughter. I wouldn't want anything to do with him either if he's a psycho supporter. Angelina is a smart woman. I trust her judgement...except when she married Billy Bob Thorton. That was a 'HUH?' moment.;)

No wonder his daughter has no relationship with him. The worst part was when he said he understood what's going on from his upcoming movie. I said WTF and changed channels.

hum hum :)

It's beyond me how anyone can uphold Bush on anything he does.:P :P :P ;( ;( ;( :+ :+ :+