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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:34 PM
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'Sub Attack Came Near Drill'
Source: Military dot com

The night a torpedo-armed North Korean submarine allegedly sank a South Korean patrol ship, the U.S. and South Korea were engaged in joint anti-submarine warfare exercises just 75 miles away, military officials told The Associated Press.

The blast that sank the Cheonan, the worst South Korean military disaster since the 1950-53 Korean War, showed how impoverished nations such as North Korea can still inflict heavy casualties on far better equipped and trained forces, even those backed by the might of the U.S. military.....(snip)


......."To us, stealth denotes the latest technology - billions of dollars in research and development in armaments," said John Park, a Korea expert at the U.S. Institute of Peace. "The North Korean version of stealth is old-school diesel-battery operated subs that evade modern detection methods."

Read more: http://www.military.com/news/article/sub-attack-came-near-drill.html?col=1186032325324



There. Theretheretheretherethere... we spend billions to accomplish what our adversaries can do for peanuts.

The difference is that our leaders expect us to survive any threat, while our adversaries are delighted if they survive one attack.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:37 PM
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1. "... stealth is old-school diesel-battery operated subs that evade modern detection methods."
that is from the plot of Down Periscope.



facepalm
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 06:25 PM
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5. But it's true
When we got to play chicken-of-the-sea with our Soviet friends in the late 60s, the WWII era diesel-electric boats were quieter than our own nukes.



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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 06:33 PM
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6. I hear much has been done at groton
to improve feed water noise and photos later removed from the web showed some pretty neat anechoic tile work in a sub someone drove into a mountain. Not discounting our north korean friends, just hate to have everyone think their money is spent on steak and lobster for sub crews.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:41 PM
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2. Ergo Israel, NK, Iran, or China can bring us to our knees
simply by taking a diesel sub, and drop a few charges on our Gulf of Mexico oil wells, and the spaghetti bowl of pipelines towards the shores of NOLA.

One good blast, and all gas and oil production is dead for a decade. Not to mention the Gulf being even more poisoned.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:54 PM
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3. That's one take...
...and it goes both ways.

The idea is to keep the machines running, not destroy the world.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:01 PM
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4. tell that to the republicans. They and their Likud
fiends are ready to destroy this world. NK is hardly better.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 06:34 PM
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7. And we can return the favor be destroying every dam in the country at the same time
say 1am local when people are sleepy and no real effort to contain the damage can be done.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:42 PM
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8. Getting a diesel submarine to the Gulf undetected would be impossible
given the number of times they would have to charge batteries on the way over.

They are only hard to detect when they are on batteries.
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