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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:15 AM
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Bernanke Says the Federal Debt Is ‘Unsustainable’

Bernanke Says the Federal Debt Is ‘Unsustainable’

By SEWELL CHAN
Published: June 9, 2010

WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben S. Bernanke, warned on Wednesday that “the federal budget appears to be on an unsustainable path,” but also recognized that the “exceptional increase” in the deficit had been necessary to ease the recession.

Mr. Bernanke’s comments before a hearing of the House Budget Committee, reiterated his view that the economic recovery would likely be slow and painful for many Americans. The Fed projects gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic activity, to rise about 3.5 percent this year — a pace barely above that needed to keep pace with the growth in the labor force.

Mr. Bernanke noted some improvements in consumer spending — particularly on durable goods — and in business investments in software and equipment, but also cautioned that “underlying housing activity appears to have firmed only a little since mid-2009, with activity being weighed down, in part, by a large inventory of distressed or vacant existing houses and by the difficulties of many builders in obtaining credit.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/business/economy/10fed.html?hp
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:17 AM
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1. Did he add that "but of course, war machine spending must remain untouched?"
n/t
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:18 AM
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2. doesn't that go without saying? n/t
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:19 AM
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3. Of course not
one of the primary reasons the Fed exists is to keep the war machine funded. That's what a "managed inflation" policy does - inflation is historically intimately connected to war funding.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:25 AM
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7. interesting, notesdev -- care to elaborate?
while I don't doubt the ties between Fed & war machine, how do they use managed inflation to keep the cannons roaring and the people quaking?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:37 AM
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10. This is the most clear explanation I've seen
http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-10-inflation

I highly recommend the rest of his "Crash Course" too

If you're pressed for time the most relevant part is about 4 minutes in.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:17 AM
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13. that exceptionally informative. thanks
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:54 PM
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30. When we stop bleeding our money on War, we may have some for ourselfves
by not killing anyone anymore...
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:20 AM
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4. oh he's the herald of cutting programs for the poor and middle class now?
Of course, the elites HAVE *their* bailouts, and their tax cuts and the keys to the Fed, but when it comes time to do something for the working class we get the *We can't AFFORD it* mantra.

F*ck him and everyone else that has put the screws to this country. Pitchforks, flaming torches, buckets of tar and rails in the ready! Bernanke needs a *makeover*. Complete with feathers... :grr:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:31 AM
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8. How do we even put up with this shit?
Seriously, I just don't understand how they are allowed to get away with all this crap.

It's like we are a nation of sheep, or sleepwalkers.

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:50 PM
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18. because the middle class...
is not being affected very much- the ones taking the hit are the poor, and we are a country that doesn't give a shit about the poor.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:45 PM
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25. And historically, we have been very careful about making sure the poor stay disorganized,
illiterate and hungry. That makes them little more than pliable livestock for those who need cheap, docile labor.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:49 PM
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26. it is hard to organize...
when you are treated as outcasts and no resources to organize. People treat their pets better than they treat the poor.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:18 PM
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28. Yes, organization requires so many things that the poor don't have or are deprived of.
Further, the state apparatus makes sure they exercise maximum control over them when they come into contact with the government, for example, in public housing, food stamps, etc.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:43 PM
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29. because all we do is bitch online and watch TV
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:23 AM
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5. OK, so his subtle push to put all of the Repukes back in power
officially begins today!

BUT THE FED IS NOT POLITICAL!!1! :sarcasm:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:24 AM
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6. File this under "no shit, Sherlock."
It's a good thing we've got an expert like Bernanke handling the Federal Reserve because no one else could have ever figured this out.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:33 AM
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9. Put the Defense Dept on leave for about a month.



They might be surprised. :eyes:


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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:45 AM
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11. Cheney needs to get a hold of him ASAP and tell him "Reagan proved Deficits don't matter"
:shrug:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:51 PM
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19. yeah...
deficits matter, but only when a democrat is in office. :crazy:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:47 AM
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12. Thank you, MOTO!
:eyes:

Ya just figuring that out now, Bernanke?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:21 AM
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14. Maybe he should have thought about that when he was blowing up the housing bubble
which resulted in trillion dollar bailouts and stimulus programs?

He can't claim he didn't know the taxpayers would be put on the hook for a financial collapse.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:23 AM
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15. Austerity measures on the horizon. n/t
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:29 AM
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16. Our debt after WW2 was proportionately greater...
...yet we didn't fix that through austerity measures, we brought it down by investing in infrastructure and people, with an economic structure that encouraged re-investing money for long-term asset growth rather than short-term liquidation and looting.

But apparently we were a communist nation back then, or you'd think so from today's rhetoric.
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:52 AM
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17. So why does Galbraith say "The danger is zero".
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/05/galbraith_the_danger_posed_by.html

Who am I supposed to believe?

I'll lean towards Galbraith because it seems pretty obvious that if you cut government spending, you'll also cut jobs. Which will just make things worse.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:40 PM
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22. indeed. nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:02 PM
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20. Gee, Ben....
if you're not part of the solution, you must have started the fucking problem.

Someone, please, shut this guy's mouth. Thank you.

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:04 PM
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21. No, Capitalism is unsustainable.

Kill Capitalism
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:42 PM
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23. Predatory capitalism is unsustainable
but I'd guess you would never hear Ben admit to that.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:43 PM
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24. We can always hyper-inflate.
n/t
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:08 PM
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27. Never take advice on tightening your belt at lunch, from a fat guy wearing suspenders...
... he is just interested in eating what's on your plate, not on helping manage your cholesterol levels.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:57 PM
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31. so cut the military budget and tax the rich they way they should be taxed
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