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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:52 AM
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Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion
ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Wednesday warned Catholic politicians they risked excommunication from the Church and should not receive communion if they support abortion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070509/wl_nm/pope_abortion_dc
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:53 AM
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1. Politicians should warn the pope
Interfere in matters of state and risk getting made irrelevant.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:59 AM
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9. how about the Church losing its tax deductable status?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:17 AM
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17. In the West the pope is already largely irrelevant.
My wife is Catholic. At least at our church, I rarely see or speak with anyone who takes his views seriously.

They see him kind of like the English must view their king or queen - a historical symbol if not particularly relevant. In much of the Third World his opinions carry much more weight. Indeed the church is much more vibrant there - no shortage of priests, etc.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:54 AM
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2. Tax all real estate holdings the church has in the US
Pay up or STFU in matters political
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:56 AM
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3. "...human personality is present from the first moment (of life)."
Yeah, that sounds right. :eyes:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:58 AM
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7. If that's true, can you imagine what Ann Coulter was like in the womb?
Was Rush sending his mother's maid down to the street corner for some hillbilly heroin?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:57 AM
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4. I'm sorry. This Catholic doesn't seem to understand why a man in Italy is making demands on American
politicians.
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:57 AM
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5. Do they risk excommunication if they support
and illegal and immoral war of aggression?
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:58 AM
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6. By the same token, if politicians support the death penalty, do they risk excommunication?
The hypocrisy here is amazing.

Benedict needs to whip out a copy of Evangelium Vitae and read it.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:58 AM
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8. My dad used to call a cooked chicken tail "the pope's nose"
I'm just sayin'...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:01 AM
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10. Ex-Hitler Youth, former director of the Office of the Inquisition threatens politicians
Edited on Wed May-09-07 10:02 AM by HereSince1628
with expulsion from ritual cannibalism and membership in society of ghost worshipers.

Gee, I wonder where people get the idea that Church Authority has no credibility?

:sarcasm:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:09 AM
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11. Rudy can't be the Pope's pick of the pack.
1. Politically supports a woman's right to choose to terminate her pregnancy.
2. Three marriages under his belt.
3. Three marriages under his current wife's belt.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:12 AM
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12. I see no difference in this man in a white pointy hat
then those other guys in white pointy hats <kkk>. They are the ones that need to be excommunicated and eradicated.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:13 AM
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13. He's just jealous because Catholics aren't leading the New Crusade
Don't worry, Papa. You can tender for the forthcoming New Inquisition.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:14 AM
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14. Again, why I left this archaic mid-EVIL institution!
Edited on Wed May-09-07 10:14 AM by AX10
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:14 AM
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15. Please, Catholics, get a rational person in that seat next time.
Please.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:24 AM
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18. Catholics don't have a say in anything the church does that's why I left them
because they left me.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:16 AM
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16. Time to tax the church, folks
Actually, it's past due.

If that old fool wants to push his religion into US law, it's time his religion paid for their privileges.

I'm sure the threat of losing dollars would shut him up fast.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:31 AM
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21. Exactly. At this point there is no excuse not to.
If any other "religion" had been found to be systematically hiding child rapers, they'd be branded a cult, and ran out of town.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:27 AM
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19. That's some chickenshit reporting from Reuters
Edited on Wed May-09-07 10:28 AM by bunkerbuster1
They went so far as to mention that "During the 2004 presidential election, the U.S. Catholic community was split over whether to support Democratic candidate John Kerry, himself a Catholic who backed abortion rights."

But not a peep about how instrumental then-cardinal Ratzi was in enabling churches to deny communion to Kerry and others who held rational views about abortion. Quite simply, the "split" mentioned in the story never would've happened without Ratzi's help.

Our "liberal media" strikes again. Oy.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:29 AM
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20. that is a threatening comment.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:34 AM
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22. One more demonstration of why being an ex-Catholic...
Is the best place to be!!!
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:01 AM
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23. Catholics don't have to worry about Communion anymore
Once my new snack cracker - Jeez-Its - hits the shelves. It really captures the full-bodied taste of Jesus in 3 different flavors: Cool Ranch, Sour Cream and Onion, and Cheddar Cheese.

TlalocW
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:01 AM
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24. Why didn't he say this this when John Roberts was being interviewed
for Chief Justice of the SC?? Roberts is catholic and he said he was personally not in favor of abortion but said it was his job to uphold precedent (or something to that effect).

Why has he not warned catholic politicians who support the Iraq war (which has been deemed an unjust war by the vatican) that they risk excommunication for backing it??

The hypocrisy really galls me to no end.

If the Church wants to influence politicians by threatening to excommunicate them, then they need to give up their tax-exempt status.
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