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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:27 PM
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"Democrat?" former RIAA CEO Hilary Rosen now working for BP!
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 02:29 PM by cascadiance
Those of us who have worked within the music industry and streaming radio along with music downloads are familiar with Hilary Rosen's history working more for record company's interests than for artists and the consumers then...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Rosen

She's supposedly a big time Democrat and supporter as well as a lesbian, but it would seem to me that she is what I would consider more of a big time opportunist, and one that you have to wonder about her real motivations at times.

Now she's decided to join BP's crisis-management team.

http://www.queerty.com/power-lez-hilary-rosen-is-helping-bp-confuse-the-public-about-oil-devastation-20100528/

Note in this story that the Podesta Group is also working for BP too, and has Tony Podesta in it, who's the brother of Obama insider John Podesta. This article talks about how all of these lobbyist power brokers are now being roped in by BP...

http://news.muckety.com/2010/06/01/washingtons-latest-pariah-the-bp-lobbyist/26341

It would appear that Huffington Post isn't happy about Rosen's move, now severing ties with the former editor-at-large there.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0610/HuffPost_cuts_ties_with_BP_consultant_Rosen.html

It seems like power brokers in Washington like Rosen who masquerade as working for us are the picture of why the country is feeling angrier and angrier and more distant from those in Washington and that we're living in a plutocratic oligarchy rather than a democracy any more!
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:29 PM
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1. Wasn't Rosen part of Obama's DOJ?
I know it's rife with RIAA and MPAA scumfuckers.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:34 PM
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8. No, she was in the RIAA from 1987 to 2003, and was head of it by '89. She never worked for Obama.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:40 PM
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11. i think she was hired to push the Ticketmaster / Live Nation merger...
... which I think Obama was helping to push from the sounds of this article...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/stopping-the-ticketmaster_b_170098.html

And of course Hilary Rosen also worked for XM Satellite Radio too. Guess who also recently had a merger of the only two companies in the satellite radio industry? Sirius and XM. And of course XM at one point had strong ownership ties from Rupert Murdoch and Newscorp. Not sure whether Rosen came on board at that time or later when they Newscorp "divested" itself from XM...
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:17 PM
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17. If I recall, she showed up on a lot of shows as a Hillary surrogate back in '07, '08 nt
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:42 PM
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25. she lobbied hard for a job with the administration
and thankfully didn't get one.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:29 PM
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2. the whores flock to where the money is
DC, BP, doesnt matter
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:30 PM
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3. More typical DLC bullshit
:puke:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:30 PM
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4. More typical DLC bullshit
:puke:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:30 PM
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5. I dont consider DLC to be a legitimate Democratic organization
They are pro corporate Republicans posing as Democrats.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:33 PM
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7. Agreed - "greed" being particularly relevant. nt
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 02:35 PM by polichick
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:32 PM
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6. The RIAA are scum
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:35 PM
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9. Big Clinton fan, her.
Rosen is neither a progressive nor a liberal.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:44 PM
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12. She earlier on was a big HRC campaign supporter...
... but later campaigned for Obama too when he won the nomination...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hilary-rosen/i-am-not-a-bargaining-chi_b_105133.html

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:12 PM
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16. Oh, I wasn't aware of that; thanks.
:hi:
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:37 PM
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10. Hilary Rosen represents the worst the Democratic Party has to offer.
Good, let her join BP. I'm just getting tired of her being the one on TV being the "liberal" voice.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:56 PM
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13. Now isn't that the truth!
How often do you see or hear a debate where the Democratic side is "represented" by someone like Rosen, who in any other world would not be considered a Democrat. It's almost like they can't find a real Democrat to speak!
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:02 PM
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14. Why are you so surprised?

The Democratic party is every bit as dedicated to Capitalism as the Republican Party.

Kill Capitalism
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:11 PM
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15. I'm not really surprised either... Just pointing out her hypocrisy as a good example...
... of those who masquerade as representing people (which we think of as Democratic Party principles) are not really doing so. And that we need to constantly have that radar up these days to prevent them from taking advantage of us.

Whether we can solve our problems and have the Democratic Party moving back to being a party representing the people where these sorts of power brokers are pushed out, or we have to move on and start a new more viable party is the big question that needs to be answered. But it is definitely true that we need to either change what's going on with "Democrats" like Rosen or start anew.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:29 PM
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21. "a party representing the people"

Well, it sorta was, a result of the Depression. But it sure wasn't before, and it stopped any pretense of being so quite a while ago. Roosevelt did it, staving off the chance of revolution and saving Capitalism. But there is no Left today to move the party even a little to the left. Also, the demands of Capital in crisis mode are greater, they will give up nothing willingly. There is no hope to be found in the Democratic Party nor in business as usual.

The working class is on it's own and under siege, we'd better organize. Not only our wellbeing but the future itself is at stake.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:04 PM
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23. Well, I think you and I can both agree that it is being more exposed....
... as a party that doesn't represent people the more we keep seeing the fissures daily that we keep having to say "WTF?" when we see what's going on.

Over time we all might have had differing opinions on how the Democratic Party was representing us or not. For a long time it would at least be a better option than the Republican Party was, and appear to give us needed changes.

But I think as we are faced with crisis, as FDR was when he took office, America is starting to see more which issues are really fundamental ones that need to be solved immediately, even if there others that we feel very emotional about (abortion, gay marriage, etc.) that have been used over time to distract us from the more important ones. Not to diminish the importance of those issues either, but those are issues that those in power don't care about, as whatever way they are decided doesn't affect their ability to control both parties and the agenda of what goes on behind the scenes in Washington.

I think the good news is that the populists are starting to see through this crap and an increasing chunk of them want to prioritize dealing with the core issues such as corporate personhood, public campaign financing, reversing the Reagan tax cuts, etc. We can tell this is forcing the corporate elements of both parties to circle the wagons and expose more holes.

The fundamental question still is if we can fix the problem by "taking over" the Democratic Party with those that think like us that perhaps can change the system from within, or if there are too many barriers for this to happen and other more confrontational means are necessary to solve it from the outside (third parties, and perhaps even threats of mass violence or massive general strikes to force the hand of those in power).

With what was voted on yesterday, (Blanche Lincoln and Jane Harman winning, prop 15 going down in California, etc.), we still have way too many sheep for an outside confrontational methodology to work, so the only way I see at the moment is what Thom Hartmann advocates and that is to massively participate in local Democratic Party events to try and take them over. Hopefully, even if that doesn't work because of barriers, that will expose what's going on more to the sheep out there and increase the visiblity of what's needed to shake the corporate elite scum off our backs.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:27 PM
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24. Don't think 'takeover' is an option.

Don't think working within the system is an option at this time either. What is needed is a bottom up workers party, completely independent of the 'political process'. When we can put hundreds of thousands in the street, call effective general strikes, then perhaps it will be time to wield the ballot box.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:45 PM
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26. Whatever works... I think the important thing is that both of our end goals are the same!

Whatever we choose it is likely to be a long time battle/option. I'm hoping for something that still lets us function as a civilized society together, and just singularly extracts the corporate criminals out and incarcerates them where they can't do any more harm, and hopefully the rest of us can find ways to work together as a whole that functions as a democracy but doesn't allow any small group of individuals to selfishly exploit and control the rest of us like what's happening now.

I advocate a way to work within, as my perception is that hopefully that won't leave as much damaging baggage to civilized society as a confrontational (revolutionary?) approach might. I don't want to see us make the same mistakes the Soviet Union and China made where many perhaps had admirable goals but were coopted/pushed out by those that still wanted to find a way to have a few exploit the many for their own ends.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:00 PM
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27. They will not go away quietly...

It would be nice, but no ruling class has ever relinquished power before. History sucks but ya can't ignore it.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:23 PM
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18. I agree, I was going to ask why "democrat" was in quotations.
I don't think anything she's done or is doing is necessarily antithetical to the Democratic Party platform.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:26 PM
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20. That was to indicate that the term was really in name only...
If I didn't quote it then I wouldn't be questioning that whether she's really a Democrat or not.

Yep, I don't consider her a Democrat either (at least as a traditional Democrat that many of us have thought of them in the past).

The big question is whether there's a party any more for us traditional Democrats any more, or if these leeches have taken it over!
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:00 PM
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22. Yep, that's it.
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 04:01 PM by blindpig
The Democratic Party is not what a lot of people think it is. It is as completely in thrall to Capital as are the Republicans. The differences are unimportant to Capital make up our political discourse, such as it is. But issues which might negatively affect Capital, those are forbidden.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:26 PM
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19. From Copyright Nazis to Oil Genocide -- not such a big change of pace actually.
What next, PR Manager for NAMBLA? (And I don't mean the North American Marlon Brando Lookalikes Assn.)
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