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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:27 PM
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Obama throws Labor under the Bus, he throws his presidency too
I have been disappointed in Obama in some areas and have given him the benefit of the doubt because so much of the previous administration and blocking of things by the Republicans, plus early defectors that turned on him almost from the start, but this one is of his own making. He can't blame the previous admin., the Republicans, or early defectors for this one. He needs labor and the working families who are the middle class, and if he is turning on them I have to say that I CAN NOT support such a position. Hopefully he will see how stupid a move this is and admonish the senior advisor and even Gibbs for their statements.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:28 PM
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1. There's so many of us under the bus now -
I think it's time for a TAKEOVER. Everyone, . . . on Three!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:37 PM
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11. Must be a big bus.
Hey! Instead of the Big Tent party, we can be the Big Bus party!

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:39 PM
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13. Our logo is Tire Tracks.
And our motto is "Sure there's room! Get under here!"
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:18 PM
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45. So *that's* was that is. I thought it was a new fabric pattern.
A fad. I see it all over.

Tire tracks. yup....now I recognize it.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:55 PM
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46. Like this
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:03 PM
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48. As you know, I really relate to this!
But I dare not say it, or there will be a fleet running in here shrieking, "It's not about YOU!"

Thanks for this.... I know there are so many of us who feel this way, and it hurts.

:yourock:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:36 PM
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49. Actually, there's so many here now, I'm thinking I'd RATHER be here!
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 12:36 PM by donco6
LOL!

The folks upstairs must be getting kinda lonely now. What's left? Rich white straight old men?
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:22 PM
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51. >>What's left? Rich white straight old men?
That's about it. And their enabler, of course.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:37 PM
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40. I think it's referred to as a fleet now.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:29 PM
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2. thread #77 "Obama throws labor under the bus"
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 05:31 PM by HughMoran
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:37 PM
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:15 PM
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28. thread response #77 "Stop talking about Obama throwing labor under the bus"
Is that better?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:17 PM
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30. :o)
:dilemma:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:30 PM
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3. I haven't been so upset since he cause that hurricane that leveled Haiti.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:31 PM
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6. Why the fuck did he do that anyway
:mad:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:49 PM
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19. Holy Crap, you forgot when he threw the city Chicago under the bus by going to Copenhagen
and deliberately losing the olympic bid!

=====

First off I question the veracity of the POLITICO story.

Secondly, the efforts in Arkansas apparently really backfired and allowed Lincoln to present herself as an "underdog" besieged by "outsider money ." That's how it seems to me, and that doesn't make me anti-labor.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:56 PM
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20. OMG! & how about the time he threw Hawaii into the sun and incinerated it!!11!!
I gave money to Halter. I watched him yesterday and decided that he was a milquetoast weasel candidate and was not feeling as good about my giving him money a few weeks back. I was posting excited threads when I though Halter was going to win - mostly because I really dislike Blanche. OTOH, I would have been shocked off my rocker if Obama didn't support the current Senator in that seat - no President walks away from a sitting Senator in their own party unless there is scandal involved. So, I supported Halter and Obama's position here. It's not that complicated - why are people making more out of this than it is?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:11 PM
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25. WAIT that hasn't happened yet! I need to check my old "CRISWELL PREDICTS" book
Lincoln is pretty awful. If I had any money I would have give to Halter. But it is what it is.

"why are people making more out of this than it is?" HA HA because that is the DU way.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:15 PM
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27. Christ, Politico with no link?...
:thumbsdown:

Sid
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:32 PM
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7. +1
LOL!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:30 PM
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4. Don't hold your breath. Afterall, "where are they going to go?"
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:34 PM
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9. HA! Well, we could go shopping....n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:41 PM
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16. !

Don't worry about LABOR.
What are the Working Class Democrats going to do?
Vote for a Republican?
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:47 PM
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42. "where are they going to go" ... nowhere, no reason to even
go out and vote ... maybe those throwing everyone under the bus better think about that. They better start giving the progressives and labor a reason to leave the house and vote, so far I haven't seen one.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:16 AM
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47. I haven't seen one either.
And many Democrats that are voting are voting defensively (lesser of two evils). More and more are beginning to understand their interests aren't represented in government.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:30 PM
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5. YUp (nt)
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:33 PM
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8. Unions are a large constituency, but they have a right to back whomever they choose.
If they choose to switch their support, then so be it. But the ridiculous threats, and the 1000+ threads that have been started on this topic today, are a bit much. Was one of those threads not enough for you? You do know that there's a whole world outside of DU, and not all Democrats are union members, myself included, right?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:44 PM
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17. I'm not a union member but I strongly support a vigorous union presence. They do benefit all workers
In areas where the union presence is strong, even non-union workers tend to do better.

BTW, I'm not African American or homosexual either but I support equal rights for those who are.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:07 PM
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23. Did I say that I don't support unions? But that support is not unconditional.
Much like your support for the administration. You don't agree with everything, if anything, the administration does; and I don't agree with everything the unions do. Not even the union membership always agrees with its leadership. It's pretty simple really.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:16 PM
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29. If I have a choice between a pro-labor or anti-labor candidate, I'm going pro-labor.
The destruction of our working and middle classes is one of the top challenges we face. It is #1 for me. Without putting people back to work for good wages, nothing else will get better, either. Halter was not as ideally progressive as I'd like but Lincoln is a disaster for working and middle class Americans.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:25 PM
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31. "Lincoln is a disaster for working and middle class Americans".
And if by some miracle, she manages to pull off a win, let's hope she doesn't hold a grudge. This purging by the parties is making it nearly impossible to work across the aisle. Between the teabaggers, and the purists, there's no compromise anymore. It may just be time for labor and the Democratic party to part ways, but that's just my opinion.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:37 PM
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34. why?
are you worried that by incurring her wrath she may be more pro-Walmart than she already is?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:44 PM
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36. This is not about Blanche. I could give a shit about Blanche as a Senator.
This is about control of Congress as much as anything. At least with Harry Reid, Dems control the chairmanships, and what comes to the floor for a vote. With Mitch McConnell in charge, progressive issues won't even make it out of committee for debate. But then you knew that, right?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:01 PM
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37. "let's hope she doesn't hold a grudge"
I'm not sure we'd be able to tell the difference. She pretty consistently votes against workers, anyway.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:10 PM
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38. See post #36 ( nt)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:35 PM
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39. Does no good to get a bill to the floor if our own won't vote to pass it.
I very seriously doubt we'll lose the majority by one seat. We will very likely at this point maintain the majority. If the economy dumps again we may lose it but not by one seat. Halter was polling better against the Republican than Lincoln was. By 11 points.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:14 PM
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43. Dude, you're in fucking Nevada. So, "your own" is Harry Reid & the dude that got caught with..
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 08:16 PM by Tarheel_Dem
his pants down, whose parents paid hush money to the mistress. Like it or not, not every state votes like the West Coast. My Senators are Kay Hagan and Richard Burr. Hagan is no liberal, but that's the trade-off for having a majority.

Political junkies like drama. So I'm sure it matters not to you whether we have a working majority or not. You should probably put your feet to the pavement to fight off the teabagger in NV, and let AR worry about Blanche. mmmmkay?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:15 PM
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44. I'm not a 'dude.' And I have absolutely NO interest in the sex lives of elected officials.
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 11:20 PM by laughingliberal
But Ensign will be taken down by his own. Repubs are jumping ship on him as fast as they can.

As for a working majority, as I've already said, it matters little if we get a bill to the floor when the Blanche Lincolns and Ben Nelsons and Joe Liebermans conspire with the Repugs to defeat them.

And, once again, Halter was polling better against the Repug than Lincoln by 11 points. He had a better chance of holding the seat than she does. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good talking point.

And I have every intention of helping Harry keep his seat which is looking more and more likely every day.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:37 PM
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41. Any poor review of Obama is "a bit much" to you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:38 PM
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:40 PM
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14. no I am not headed back South
unless I am forced to by financial needs. I don't plan to go back unless it becomes my only option.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:41 PM
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15. I'll be back in Mobile next week, helping with the endangered species
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:05 PM
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22. Sarge,
are you the Sarge who used to call Mike Malloy?
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:12 PM
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26. Yes I am
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:25 PM
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32. I loved your conversations with Mike...
You haven't called in recently. I wish you would - yours is a great voice to hear.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:32 PM
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33. Thanks why don't you check out my show
on http://thejefffariasshow.com on Monday at 3 pm pacific and Saturday at 4 pm pacific.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:38 PM
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35. I will!
Thanks, Sarge!
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:47 PM
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18. Yeah, and we're just another special interest group also!
Fucking Blanche Lincoln could be on fire and I wouldn't so much as piss on her. We wouldn't want to disappoint the real americans, you know, the corporate sponsors of her and Obama.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:58 PM
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21. K&R true in so many ways: EFCA, the Excise tax on health ins plans, etc...so many promises broken
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:07 PM
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24. indeed
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:53 PM
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50. Senior advisors and Gibbs aren't driving the bus. Obama is.
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