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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:53 PM
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"Time to grow up" letter in the Chicago Tribune responding to George Will
This is a eloquently written letter from someone very familiar with the works of Ayn Rand, but has managed to mature beyond them. That the author comes from a largely upscale Republican enclave in Illinois makes as profound a statement as her argument.
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TIME TO GROW UP

This is in response to columnist George Will's "Ron Johnson: What the tea party looks like" (Commentary, May 27). I have been astonished and dismayed to discover, in the last two years or so, that Ayn Rand's novels, especially "Atlas Shrugged," are and have been such a strong influence on people we have trusted and on certain people who are running for public office. I was introduced to Ayn Rand by a journalism teacher I had in high school, about 1963. Being very young at the time, I remember being entranced with Rand's books. Her philosophy of everyone carrying his or her own weight, being strong and self-reliant, appealed to me very much.

But then something strange happened. I grew up.

I looked around at Rand's world, and I saw that there were no old people there, and no children. No one was sick. No one was physically or mentally handicapped. And I realized that the real world consists of all kinds of people, smart and not so smart, weak as well as strong, generous and greedy, foolish and wise. In other words, the real world consists of human beings, and every one of them contributes whatever he or she can, in his or her own way, to the society we all live in, and depends on that society to provide him or her with what he or she needs. None of us was raised in a cave, and none of us can say that we got where we are entirely by our own efforts.

And so I grew up, and repudiated Ayn Rand and her "philosophy." And until recently, it never occurred to me that any adult could still be influenced by her. I am sorry to find out that I was wrong.

— Barbara Lipkin, Naperville

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-vp-0609voicelettersbriefs-20100609,0,1140664.story
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:57 PM
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1. For Ayn, the world is a lot of dead-weight Lilliputians
tying up the would-be Gullivers.

The truth is -- as the article states -- that we're all in this world together and things work best when we look out for one another.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:08 PM
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2. Even the "self-made man" had a mom and dad!
Who likely provided him with nutrition, security, and an education.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:09 PM
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:15 PM
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4. Rand was just bitter because her father's business was taken by Bolsheviks.
BP took the businesses of every fisherman along the Gulf Coast, not to mention those depending on tourists.

"Ayn, life is hard, too bad yours didn't end a lot sooner!"
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:35 PM
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8. take reagan out too while you're at it.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:39 PM
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10. not worth it. rich selfish bastards would just find someone else to idolize
greed never wants for philosophies and fig leaves to diguise its true nature.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:01 AM
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15. Rand merely provided their intellectual "justification".
In earlier incarnations, they were feudal lords, plantation owners, or robber barons.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:22 PM
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5. I have always considered Rand as the darling of boys/men who
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 09:22 PM by WCGreen
have yet to have a non self-inflicted orgasm...
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:33 PM
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6. Alan Greenspan was one of her acolytes. n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:34 PM
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7. can you see him getting laid until he had whole lot of money and power...
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:38 PM
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9. And was largely responsible for fueling the credit crisis by encouraging middle-class
homeowners to use their homes like ATM machines, thereby running up debt in attempting to meet other expenses.
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:42 PM
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11. Yeah, You too can be a Libertarian millionaire.
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:47 PM
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13. The funny thing about the Libbies
is that despite their vaunted concern for independence from a social perspective, they usually can be reliably predicted to vote Republican for economic reasons -- and in the process, for the same idiots that want to quash all their vaunted independence. Have you ever met a Republican that is anti drug regulation; pro prostitution; pro abortion?

Go figure.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:44 PM
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12. Barbara Lipkin rocks. K&R
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:54 AM
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14. In Republican DuPage County, she is in the courageous minority!
DuPage is the stain of "red" in the heart of "blue" Illinois.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:04 PM
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16. I live in DuPage County, and we are indeed a minority
But like almost anyplace, there are some good people with their heads screwed on straight.
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