BP Moved the "Relief Well" Date Out

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Business_&_Finance/Investments/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_B/threadview?bn=26496&tid=163207&mid=163219&m=me&o=lp&rt=1

Any thoughts on this post, Duers?

it was "mid August"

it's now "late August"


which is really October at the earliest


Australia's blowout needed 5 relief wells

to shut down


BP stopped working on the 2nd well

to cannibalize parts... got caught

was ordered to spend whatever is necessary

to get "both" done


Mr President...

they are still making a FOOL out of you

knock off the BOP... drag it away

slide weighted plates over hole

pour rock, gravel and sand over the plates


and SEIZE BP's assets before the divest it

They will have to stop with any hurricane. The first attempt is rarely successful, even on shallow wells.

bet that is a rolling date too.

there's only a 50% chance on each of them.

The truth may be that damage to the well casing will make the relief well more tricky if not impossible.

Of course we won't find out NOW when important decisions could be made..

difficult at those depths into the seabed. It reads like a "Mission Impossible" episode from years back... All the cloak and dagger by BP certainly isn't helping much. So much BS is flowing it's as much as the leak... I suppose someone will be making a movie.

getting the well under control. It's too late.

http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article216360.ece

"The federal government ordered BP to prepare a second relief well in the Gulf of Mexico in case the first one fails to work as an "ultimate solution" to the oil disaster there, Adm. Thad Allen said Tuesday.

“We thought it was prudent to have the backup well done,” Allen, who is overseeing the government’s response to the oil leak, told reporters in what is expected to become a routine briefing on efforts in the Gulf. Allen declined to say what the chances of success were for the well, and he said workers will “continue to drill the second one” until the first relief well is proven to contain the oil, a process expected to begin in August.

The upcoming hurricane season might complicate cleanup efforts, Allen said. “Our concern right now is that we don’t have the oil capped, therefore there is the possibility” that violent weather could “cause more oil to be discharged.”

Plans for a “floating production facility” that could be used during storms are “being finalized right now,” he said.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0610/second_chance_15a67b61-3113-426e-bed5-bef2810afb9a.html

It's said that they suspended drilling only because they needed the BOP from it as one of their options, now dropped, to deal with the broken spewing well, the BOP on BOP option. (if you care to believe this)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2923396520100530

I just don't know, will this ever be done?

:shrug:

No tropical storms
No failures on their drilling
A perfect hit on the first try.

Completion before the end of 2010 would be a real shock IMO.

Anyone who thinks this could move any faster is dreaming.

I would say half dozen to a dozen.

Australians were deeper and did it in 4 months with 5 wells.

They charge main well with electricity.
Electricity in a metal pipe (wire) creates a magnetic field perpendicular to the pipe.
The relief well team routinely stops to measure the magnetic field strength coming from the main well. That data is fed back to computer models to adjust the angle of the drill.

Essentially it creates a "homing well" or a game of Marco-Polo where the well isn't moving. The Australians lacked that and this is why it took 5 attempts.

Still I think the timeline for the wells will be pushed back a couple times. A lot rides on how much time is lost due to Hurricanes (or even worse is a Hurricane damages the relief well rig) and that is something nobody can control.

BTW: your replace BOP with a plate idea is pure physics fail for a half dozens reasons.

Well electricity in a metal pipe (wire) creates a magnetic field perpendicular to the pipe. The relief well routinely stops to measure the field strength and direction and feed that data back to computers." I had been curious how this honing locating system worked. Thanks for posting!!!

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/reliefwell060210.htm

It is from BP but given media hates science I doubt you will find another source for "boring science details". :)

:hi:

And, the proffered solution at the end of that post is indeed a big FAIL. My reason for sharing this somewhat random piece is that I am livid about the cannibalization of the second well, and the inept planning that we keep witnessing.

is that the stopped drilling second well for a few days so its BOP could be used in a BOP on BOP operation if the capped failed.
Looks like they have abandoned the BOP on BOP and resumed drilling second well.

thanks for that info about the magnetic field.

Yeah we know they're got to be overly optimistic about the timeline...:thumbsdown:

I'm no physicist but I can see you can't drop a big plate on this. I can't figure out why they're not trying to catch more of it above, but guess they've got no resources they want to free up to do more of that (too expensive). Which is itself a failure.

Due to the history of these things.

August assumes no hurricanes and all going WELL

I HOPE they get that, but realistically, I am worst casing this.

You can only drill as fast as the rock will let you. I understand that estimates of how long it will take are going to change - that's why they're called estimates. I hope they begin on a second or even third relief well ASAP, but I appreciate you can't make definite predictions.

As for throwing heavy stuff on top of the gusher, I think it's just possible people have already thought of that. Like, several weeks ago. Then the ones with a clue immediately realised why it wouldn't work.

In the meantime, work on the first relief well, which started May 2, continues and has currently reached a depth of 12,956 feet. The second relief well, which started May 16, is at 8,576 feet, and testing of the BOP is continuing. Both wells are still estimated to take approximately three months to complete from commencement of drilling.

http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=7062670

As of 7 June

Intersection depth looks to be around 18,000 ft.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/downloads_pdfs/releif_well2_large.pdf

A cat 5 hurricane that sucks all the oil out of the Gulf and drops it on Washington. I wouldn't mind if some of those asshats lost their political livlihood.

Kidding of course.

The politicians would just get on their private jets and fly home. The only ones that would be affected would be the residents and they have enough problems already.

Yeah, saw the just kidding, but I see lots of that kind of thinking that some are not kidding about it.

It would't change a thing.

There would just be more largely innocent victims.

Makes me wonder why the hell I bother to pay attention and vote and get involved.

For the most part that doesn't make much of a difference either.

to attack the oil with every possible idea they can muster...I want to see Costner's idea up and running....and lots of others..that is frustrating to know these ideas are not being tried...if money is the issue...cough up the funds and bill BP later..

relief wells. (no link)