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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:51 AM
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The Dick Cheney secret energy meetings, revisited





from Mother Jones:



Thu Jun. 10, 2010 3:00 AM PDT


Dick Cheney hasn't made much time for television appearances lately. But in the weeks since the Deepwater Horizon unleashed a torrent of oil on the Gulf of Mexico, his name has been creeping back into the press. "The truth is that right now we have precisely the regulatory system that the Bush-Cheney administration wanted: full of loopholes, full of cronies and lobbyists filling the very agencies that are supposed to be overseeing the industry," liberal commentator Arianna Huffington said on ABC's This Week last Sunday. Cheney's daughter, Liz, was on hand to defend her father. "Arianna, I don't know what planet you live on," she shot back. "What you are saying has no relationship to the truth, no relationship to the facts."

The reality is a lot more complicated than that. Many of the policy and regulatory failures that laid the groundwork for the BP catastrophe can be traced back to the Bush-Cheney era. But so far, this question has received relatively little attention—mostly because the task force that developed the former administration's energy policy operated in extreme secrecy. Did the task force's decisions play a role in the BP spill? And could the Gulf disaster finally provoke new scrutiny of the task force's clandestine workings?

The energy task force was created days after onetime oilman George W. Bush took office in 2001, and was headed by Cheney, a former CEO at Halliburton, one of the world's largest providers of oilfield products and services. For months, the task force solicited input on US energy policy. On May 16, 2001, the group issued its final report, which was submitted to Congress in June. But the participants and details of the discussions were kept tightly under wraps.

The open-government group Judicial Watch tried to pry details of the task force's deliberations from the administration in June, arguing that the sessions qualified as public information under the Federal Advisory Committee Act and the open-meetings law. The US General Accounting Office (GAO), the investigative arm of Congress, also sought information on which industry executives and lobbyists had attended the gatherings. ...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/06/dick-cheney-bp-spill



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:17 AM
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1. AHA...those secret meetings....what were they about?? yup, jus as we thought..
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:02 AM
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18. Kick their ass.
Steal their gas.

Same old. Same old.

PS: Howyadoin', Kaikua'ana? Hope all is well with you and yours.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:31 PM
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22. and them assholes almost got away with it...so much for Big Corps and their lobbyists
everyone still going,,,hope all is well there

what ya doing in the house??

Get out there and go help clean oil...LOL
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:47 AM
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2. No reason for any meeting to be private when it involves our 'energy policy'
How this was justified I'll never know. Do these assholes think the people are too ignorant to question this? The web of lies, deceit, and paternalism by the Bush people is Gordian indeed. Cheney needs to die behind bars at Leavenworth. I guess when you decide to become a career criminal like Cheney you go big. Maybe we made it illegal to duel in the USA too soon.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:52 AM
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3. Very true. But equally true is that Hillary's secret health-care mtgs ought not have been.
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 06:53 AM by WinkyDink
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:05 AM
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5. You are right, IMO all meetings of the government should be public unless
extraordinary circumstance like 'real' national security issues. Everything done 'for' us by our elected people and their appointees should be able to stand the light of day. What could they talk about that NEEDS to be kept secret? The razor cries bullshit.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:12 AM
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6. Wow, I guess you are right they both were disastrous for the American people.
If Hillary had been successful we would have universal health coverage today, helping the American people have healthy lives. Bu,t unfortunately she did not succeed and the American people have been bilked out of their savings and homes by the insurance companies. And Shooter was successful with his secret negotiations and now the ocean is *ucked forever and the American people will pay for the disaster with death, illness, job loss and real estated devaluation. It is good that you could compare the two. Secret meetings ...bad.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:26 AM
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9. Your sarcasm is misplaced. Goose, gander?
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 07:41 AM by WinkyDink
But, fine, go ahead and defend HER secrecy because you can PREDICT THE IMAGINARY RESULTS.

Missing the point.
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/06/us/hillary-clinton-s-health-role-disputed.html
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:08 AM
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14. Secrecy has no place in our government.
I just don't see your point of throwing stinky panties on top of a *hit pile that is all.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:57 AM
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4. The US is now harboring and protected the biggest theif in World History.
Not recognizing and prosecuting the Bush/Cheney administration is a slap in the face to defenders of Law and Order everywhere in the world.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:14 AM
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7. And god has been trying to save us from Shooter, sending heart attack after heart attack...
but our doctors insist on putting him back together again. Each time they do the man gets greedier and meaner. Go figure.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:28 AM
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10. (proving that there **IS** such a thing as
"too rich".)
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:05 AM
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11. I like shooter but don't you think it should have the qualifier of 'drunken' ?
" The drunken shooter shot his frien.. crony while 'hunting' clipped winged quail from a golf cart reaching for a Budweiser. '
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:14 AM
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16. Very true.
And our soldiers, who have been exposed to violence and god knows what, go to jail when they come home from war and shoot their friends. There is no justice in any of this. The fact that this 'man' walks free while our troops pay the price is just outrageous!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:21 AM
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8. k/r
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:07 AM
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12. now is the time to use the information from the secret meeting for an enquiry and prosecution
this whole thing stinks of Haliburton
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:08 AM
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13. His name shouldn't have to creep into the press..
its obvious what he did and everyone knows it the press and everyone else who likes to pretend,have something to do with it too,one way or the other..
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:09 AM
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15. K&R!!
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:53 AM
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17. K and R
Great-get a good laugh-grafix!

There's a post up thread by annabanana, and I can't say it any better than that. Order is best preserved through the EQUAL application and enforcement of the rule of law.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:08 AM
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19. Super Top Secret Energy Meeting Notes
Cheney: (munching a deep-fried kitten) This has been a very productive meeting. I appreciate all the bowing and scraping. In summary - Point 1: Stay out of NYC on or about September 11, 2001. Point 2: We invade a certain liquid-petroleum-hoarding middle easter country in Q1, 2003. Point 3: Operation "Castrate Energy Oversight" begins immediately. That is all. Go forth and do my bidding. Scooter, Ken, in my office!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:38 PM
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23. I agree with everything except Point 1.
The most officialist truest mostest honest report was released by a whole unbiased most honest commission that said that it was the Al Kaders that done it.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:41 PM
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25. I know. Its a little over the top.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:08 AM
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20. ............
K&R

there is no doubt in my mind that this man has been involved with this for a long time.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:17 AM
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21. criminal at large
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:40 PM
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24. # 21. n/t
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