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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:25 PM
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Blue Dogs betray liberals, liberals for some reason surprised
Alternate headline for this story from The Hill: "House liberals shocked as Blue Dogs pull football away, again."

Progressive Democrats approved the passage of pay-as-you-go rules as a favor to conservative Blue Dog Democrats. In return, the Blue Dog Democrats were supposed to, you know, act like Democrats, and pass legislation to help the unemployed and fund schools and healthcare and other things that many Democrats got into politics to do.

But there was apparently a bit of a misunderstanding! The progressives actually thought the Blue Dogs weren't too cowardly and duplicitous to spend money on the disadvantaged and downtrodden:

They say they received assurances that Blue Dogs would support “emergency” spending measures intended to bolster the economy and help the unemployed even if they added to the deficit.

Designating the measures as “emergency” spending was supposed to exempt them from the new pay-go law, which requires new government spending to be offset with other cuts.

Instead, Blue Dog objections related to the deficit forced House leaders to strip COBRA healthcare benefits and a package of aid to states prized by liberals from the tax extenders bill.

Blue Dogs, along with a handful of freshman and sophomore Democrats, continued to object to the stripped-down package, eventually approved by the House, over its codification of another round of benefits to the unemployed as emergency spending.


Sure, there are millions of people without jobs, and extending unemployment would provide an immediate boost to the economy, but top economists all agree that the deficit will go away forever as soon as we stop giving money to poor people.

(Blue Dogs are all totally fine with "emergency" funding for endless wars and billion dollar jet engines and things like that, obviously.)

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/06/10/blue_dog_betrayal
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:27 PM
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1. Thanks for voting in the Blue Dogs!!
You've got the Democratic Party you deserve!!


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:29 PM
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2. duh....again and again and again and again and again....












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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:29 PM
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3. Can't see how any one is surprised....
all though I do understand why some want to act surprised.:mad:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:30 PM
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4. "Surprised" is favorable, hence chosen, to acknowledgment of a rigged system intended to stave off..
... legitimate, transparent rep democracy
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:30 PM
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5. They never learn... The greatest problem with the D party is it's not a
party of one, so it always starts off on the wrong foot IMO.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:20 PM
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6. Lol -- ain't it the sad, sad truth. Nt
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:24 PM
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7. Liberal means minimum govt. and maximum individual rights. The two Blue Dog congresspersons I know
campaigned on those goals and generally vote that way.

They also know if they don't vote that way they will lose in the next election to an opponent who does vote for that liberal agenda.

Apparently many have redefined the word liberal and also naively believe a congressperson should vote as directed by some party hack rather than for their constituents.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:29 PM
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8. What you describe is libertarianism, I'm afraid.
My understanding of FDR (Democratic) liberalism is very different.

:dem:

-Laelth
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:40 PM
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9. No, I used "liberal' correctly but many people today have redefined the word and along with
"progressive" use them to push "socialist" goals.

Wikipedia has some interesting statements and links under the title Liberalism worldwide.

My point is the word "liberal" has many different meanings today and I find that I as a self-proclaimed "liberal" am often at odds with another who is just as adamant that she/he is a "liberal".

:shrug:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:58 PM
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10. This is one Liberal who is not surprised at anything the Blue Dogs
will do. If someone took the time, they would find they
(just like GOP) are more conservative and concerned with
only Business's Interests than their constituents.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 04:00 AM
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11. nodding
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