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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:56 PM
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Christopher Hitchens on Tweety
This probably won't go over well, but what an egotistical ass. Basically said "I came on this show to talk about ME so stop asking questions about my opinions that don't involve topics like ME".

It just came across as arrogant as hell.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:58 PM
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1. He is arrogant as hell ...

'Course, unlike some people, he may actually have a reason to be since he happens to be one of the smartest people on the planet. "Smart," not necessarily "wise."

But, read his books. He's totally self-absorbed.

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:05 PM
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8. I have never been a fan. While I appreciate his intelligence
his attitude is a TOTAL turnoff. I don't care if the guy has figured out the meaning to life. Prior, I would have given a read. Not after that display. I guess I just missed him on other performances (as he never interested me) as several below seem to know this about him already.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:30 PM
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16. He's the intellectual equivalent of Dennis Miller ...

He's what I call a militant atheist, in the literal sense. One of the reasons he supported the Iraq war is that he went nuts in the wake of 9/11 and doesn't seem to have a particular problem with eradicating entire populations based on their religion. I may be exaggerating there a bit, but just a little bit. Beyond all the intellectualizing, his fundamental problem reason for supporting military intervention in the Middle East amounts to actual, physical war on religion.

All his books are mini-bios. I, I, I ...

Anyway, I could rant for days, so I'll just stop.

I respect his intelligence, but I wouldn't want to have to sit in a room with him.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:59 PM
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2. He agreed to come on it to discuss his book - I guess he expected tweety to honor his agreement
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:03 PM
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5. Tweety isn't Oprah or Jon Stewart
There is no "book promotion" segment on Tweety's show.

If MSNBC agrees to allow you to promote a book on a news/commentary show, you have to expect that the segment will be expected to be balanced between the book and current events.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:59 PM
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3. hitch is the essence of ego-a real bore
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:00 PM
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4. Actually I thought he was LESS arrogant than usual -- but arrogant nonetheless. nt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:04 PM
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6. Why wouldnt that go over well?
That guy is an egotistical asshole who was a top cheerleader for the Iraq War
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:06 PM
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9. He was? I am not very familiar with him.
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 07:07 PM by Ruby the Liberal
Topics that interest him must not have ever crossed my path as this is the first time I have seen him speak for more than 10 seconds.

On edit - I learned here long ago to be positive or you risk kicking the anthill of fanboys.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:05 PM
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7. What Galloway called him: "a drink-soaked failed Trotskyite popinjay"
Bwahahaha!
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:09 PM
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10. I must either live under a rock or I have him confused with someone else.
Isn't this guy a leading author on atheism?

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:16 PM
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14. He's an Atheist all right, so am I. He was a Socialist then went crazy...
...over 911 and supported Bush and the Iraq Invasion. Hence a failed Trotskist.

He also supported that weird attack by our Senate on Galloway over failed accusations of fraud (in Iraq over a children's charity Miriam's Cause or something like that)then Galloway hammered the Senate committee (including Levin) and Hitchens.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:26 PM
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15. I admit, I am surprised this guy stayed off my radar.
Seems no one here (responding) was surprised but me.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:09 PM
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11. And those are his good points!
Galloway was being diplomatic.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:13 PM
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12. Hitchens and Sullivan are all ego all the time.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:14 PM
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13. he said Margaret Thatcher was sexy!
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AmericaIsGreat Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:31 PM
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17. Hitchens is absolutely great
But I grew up in England; maybe you need to be a Brit to truly appreciate him.

My word of advice is read his books. That way, you won't be so focused on his "arrogant" delivery.

By the way, calling people arrogant is one of the most over-used and baseless insults these days. Oh, he's so arrogant; she's so arrogant. Who gives a shit? Is he making claims based on facts? Are his thoughts rational and coherent? If you've read any of his books I'd say that's a pretty obvious "yes."

He's got a great writing style and he's funny as hell but, again, perhaps it requires that dry, British sense of humor to relate.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:36 PM
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18. Although I only have one book I read, I did enjoy God ING
...quite a bit. His wit is very sharp and makes the book a breeze to read.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:35 PM
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19. Its a big world out there with a gazillion books and finite time to read them
Thanks, I'll pass. I know, my loss, but I loathe showcased egotism (or whatever word you prefer to arrogance). We get enough of it subtly than to see it out aggressively.

Just not enough hours in the week, ya know?

:hi:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:02 AM
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20. One other bit ...

Sorry to pester you with this (I think you got your answer :)), but I was reading through my RSS feeds and ran across this.

The larger article discusses both Helen Thomas and Christopher Hitchens and is making a point about the importance of being self-critical.

The blog post is here: http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/07/helen-thomas-christopher-hitchens-and-being-wrong/

The bit I wanted to share in this thread is this:

This morning, I had an interesting conversation with Christopher Hitchens, who’s in town plugging his memoir. He professed to be a man of few beliefs, political or otherwise: “my only commitment is to a group of skeptics who are not sure of anything,” he said. But when I asked him what he wasn’t sure about, he started talking about galaxy formation, of all things. He said that “my greatest delight is being proved right in my own lifetime”, and said that he couldn’t think of the last time that he was wrong about anything. In other words, he’s highly skeptical of others, but utterly incapable of interrogating his own opinions with the same kind of approach.

...

At the beginning of the conversation, Hitchens expressed a certain amount of intellectual pleasure in noting that the statement “Christopher Hitchens is dead” is false now, but will be true in the future. But that’s trivial. When it comes to the opinions he expresses in his columns and books, he’s much less willing to admit that any of them are anything but certainly and timelessly true.

I try hard to believe the opposite: that many if not most of my opinions are wrong (although of course I have no idea which they are), and that many of the most interesting and useful things I write come out of my being wrong rather than being right. This is not, as Wilkinson noted to Cowen, an easy intellectual stance to hold: he calls it “a weird violation of the actual computational constraints of the human mind”.

But I think it’s undoubtedly worth working on, and, as I say, I think it’s one which is more common in women than in men. And I think it’s a serious weakness of Hitchens’ that he places so much importance on his being right.
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