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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:08 PM
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We all need to remember that in the long sweep of American History...
Change was always viewed as a bad thing.

When people say that we are a conservative country, I see the reasoning.

For many of the millions of people who came here, getting use to being a part of a country that has always looked down on those who come after was difficult. So difficult that once they were established they too resented the next wave that came to our shores.

It's easy to say no.

It's easy to rally behind the great idea of no.

It's much harder to convince people that change is not the enemy.

The frustration I had in being a part of the party machine here in Cuyahoga County was that the people on the inside were more concerned with saving their place at the table than helping their constituents. Just head over to Cleveland.com and read about the county in Crisis.

The same was true when I worked for the Ohio House of Representatives.

Just ask yourself, how many people do you know that are really big on change.

Anyway, this is just somethings to consider when frustration mounts in these volatile times we live in.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:13 PM
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1. The problem is there is no "long sweep of American history".
Many of the problems with American society is that it hasn't got enough history behind it. A subject for long discussion and I don't have the time right now, sadly, to write more. It is work hours for me.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:16 PM
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2. the long sweep of all history change is feared
and those who could scare the shit out of the ruled maintained power.
Liberalism and desire for change have had but few moments in the light.
Religions and others that claim all sorts of hobgoblins to fear eventually pop to the top again.

Stop and think how many years out of the 220 that the US has existed have there been true liberal leadership
- In the beginning more or less for @30 years.
- Lincoln?
- TR
- FDR more or less til Johnson. Some Carter.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:18 PM
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3. That's the point...
We need to keep Obama's feet to the fire.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:52 PM
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5. I don't want a President who needs to be forced into doing the right thing
I want a leader, not a follower - and especially not a reluctant follower.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:19 PM
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6. Well, you kind of have to deal with Obama for the next 2.5 years...
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:57 AM
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9. We're talking about long term, not the short
and in the long term, I don't want a President that has to have their feet held to the fire. I want a President who carries the flame.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:30 PM
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4. Change is nearly always scary.
People want to hold on to what they know. Change makes that difficult...

And these days, it seems to me anyway, getting people to see the necessity of change is really difficult and therefore frustrating.

It's like trying to turn the Titanic.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:17 AM
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7. My mother remembers having to fix plates
for members of a student union convention who were not allowed to get their own food because they were black in DC. The sweep of history moves faster than we think. But it moves fastest when we stand up and protest the wrongs being done.

My sister remembers being told that veterinary schools weren't accepting women, or so few it didn't matter. Now most of them seem to be women.

As hard as it is to make great changes, don't you ever doubt that great changes have been made. We take them for granted now, is all.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 01:38 AM
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8. I think you misunderstood what i meant...
Great changes have occurred but they never occurred because one man was elected president.

The great presidents seized the day and rode the tide of change to greatness.

In our celebrity obsessed culture, we demand everything from the leader of a system that can not produce the change they want TIGHT NOW!

Everyone in this country seems to think that everything is the most important thing and all is lost if one ad thing happens.

That was what I was trying to get at...
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