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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:26 PM
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Cautionary opinion: Fred Thompson GOP savior nominee
First off this is mostly opinion and anecdote but it is something that has been hammered home to me in the last couple days. I post because as we pay a lot of attention to the clowning of Rudi or the flopping of Mitt and the wired angst of John McCain, good 'ol boy Fred Thompson might be getting an early pass.

Last night cruising the late nite talk radio dial, which lets face it, is almost wholly wing-nut leaning, I was struck by the number of times Thompson's name came up as a wish-for candidate from the pug base, almost all callers and host voicing dissatisfaction with the current GOP crop. They don't like Rudi or Mitt because of past policy differences and McCain is too unstable and not just likable. Besides, they are beginning to think these guys cannot win. The pug base is deathly worried about Hillary. Their own pundits are now saying Rudi, Mitt and McCain will lose.

Thompson is biding his time. He did a stealth announcement about his medical history a few weeks ago, getting that out of the way. He seems to be going after that Reagan charisma comparison. He, like Reagan has increased name and face recognition simply because of movie and television exposure, the kind of thing that gets people elected. I even think he left the senate to work in TV with an eventual prez run in mind. Uncanny though it might seem, with today's electorate TV might be a better platform to launch from than the senate.

Then, this morning on DU I see this: File under trophy wife


Goggle News Thompson, he's HOT right now, like this on a tale of the tape comparison between Thompson and St. Ronnie.

D.C. Shuffle
Tale of the Tape: Fred Thompson vs. Ronald Reagan
KINDRED SPIRITS?


He's an actor, a Republican, and even has the support of wicked '80s spinster Michael Deaver—it didn't take long for the press and prominent Republicans to start comparing presumed '08 presidential candidate Fred Thompson to Ronald Reagan.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/05/ronald-reagan-fred-thompson.php

I'm thinking look for his announcement soon, and look out!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:30 PM
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1. He's at least ahead in the two man 'candidate named Thompson'
poll.
I think Fred is only hot because no one knows much about Fred. One things for sure. He's in favor of fighting Iraq to the last drop of YOUR blood.
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mediawatch Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:33 PM
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4. disagree
Fred is to republicans what Gore is to democrats. If I were a betting man, I would bet Gore and Thompson will be the two
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:36 PM
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6. Could you elucidate?
I am not sure what Gore is to Dems. He isn't running. We have fine, fine candidates other than a non-candidate Gore.
So what is it that Fred Thompson is to Republicans?
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mediawatch Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:41 PM
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8. sure
Gore is not running, but he is third in the polls. At least the ones I have seen. Thompson is not running yet he is third in the polls. I am not implying they have anything in common other than wishful thinking from their appropriate sides. Is this clear?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:46 PM
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11. I thought you were implying that the Dems had woeful choices
like the repukes had. Dems have great choices which makes the chance of a Gore run less likely. Repugs have some gawd-awful choices which makes the chances of a Fred the savior run more likely. I believe when Fred finally runs and he becomes known they will find Fred little better than any of their others. And he probably won't be as pretty on TV as Mittens.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:31 PM
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2. Read this: Let Down By Fred Thompson
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/06/AR2007050600914.html

GOPers are hoping FT will come save the day(!) but I think he will disappoint. Don't get me wrong, Repubs would love to rally around an empty vessel.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:32 PM
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3. FT may be the biggest threat we have. We should not
underestimate the public's capacity to mistake TV fiction for reality.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:08 PM
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15. He's made an impact with radio, too
Federico just finished a long stint subbing for Paul Harvey. His polished 'warm and fuzzy' delivery of GOP talking points and half-truths must have won over a huge following of Harvey listeners. I am not underestimating his appeal, he is a threat.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:46 PM
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21. Yet another similarity with Reagan
Anyone remember Reagan's daily radio spot in his run-up to running for office?
It was kinda like the Harvey bombast, a little ditty mon-fri expounding on his eventual talking points.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:34 PM
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5. There's a viper underneath that trophy...
she's a cross between Charo and Evita.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:39 PM
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7. Republicans always say they hate Hollywood values but keep wanting to nominate actors
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:42 PM
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9. Bingo! Fred is a Hollywood-y kind of repub, no? And a better actor than St. Ronnie.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:44 PM
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10. Wow! Wolfie and Mrs. Thompson look pretty chummy!
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:47 PM
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12. Think he'll run, but also think he'll wait as long as possible
Look what happened to Giuliani. He peaked way too soon and is now speeding downhill like he just waxed his skis. Bet on Thompson to let the other candidates spend their money and beat each other up, and make his own announcement as close to the Iowa caucus as possible so that there's no time to look at his record.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:18 PM
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20. Its better to enter late as a Repig, I suspect.
Repigs have to walk a fine line of appealing to moderate Repigs while still capturing the hearts and minds of the fanatic fundie freaks.

So the shorter the time he is campaigning, the less he will have to actually say about his positions. And the less he needs to say, the less likely it is that all of the contradicitons in modern "conservative" thought will be exposed as fraud and lies.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 12:48 PM
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13. Wow that Wolfowitz is a real studmuffin n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:01 PM
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14. He's certainly more of a threat than the others. I'm convinced he's running.
He has that "fatherly", "man of the people", image that the drooling idiot Reagan had, minus the drool. With that "good old boy" drawl he can convince a lot of gullible people that he's just the guy to save them from all the bogeymen lurking under their beds.

However, he does have a major drawback. He's a Republican when Republicans are not in good odor to the electorate.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:13 PM
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16. Does it look like babe magnet Wolfowitz is recoiling from Thompson's wife?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:14 PM
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17. Being the only non-appealing option to some doesn't make him a threat yet. - n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:16 PM
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18. this is why it is dangerous to assume anti-Bush attitudes will lead to a Dem victory
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:17 PM
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19. Fred Thompson is no threat. He's got skeletons up the wazoo.
Some DUers already know about the juicier stuff.

I don't see him running, unless he inherits Bush Sr.'s blackmail network.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:48 PM
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22. Here we go again
>
I'm thinking look for his announcement soon, and look out!

No, I don't think so. If he does announce, he'll wilt soon under the assault. You think Delay
had bones in his closet?

Thompson is just the freeper's last hope for clinging to the fascist, hate-filled America they so love. They bring him out to feel "manly" and wave him around like a fire stick. It's kind of pathetic, but not a real threat.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:53 PM
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23. I hope your're right
I'm just being cautious and on the look-out for a dark horse to emerge in this race.
Evaluating the other pug candidate chances right now it doesn't look like there are any winners in that crowd so I hope you are right.
We shall see.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:56 PM
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25. He's no winner ... I doubt he'll even enter the race ... if he does, he's old meat and fast n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:57 PM
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26. They say he is lazy
and hates campaigning (which is why he left politics).

I hope you are right, for now he is the "great white hope" for the right's base. They get all excited for him, like they did (and some still do) dubya.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 01:55 PM
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24. We need to be concerned about him
Edited on Wed May-09-07 01:55 PM by merh
He is neocon through & through.

But, he is a lawyer, a lobbyist and an actor that NEVER SERVED in the military (another friggin chickenhawk, loves war but refused to serve when he could.) His record as a senator was nothing exciting (actully, I like his campaign finance stance) and he was co-chair of McCain's previous runs for prez. He has baggage that isn't easily discarded.

He isn't perfect or bullet proof and we can use his history to respond to the right's bullshit attacks on our candidates, the lawyer (Edwards), the actor/hollywood (Gore), etc

Here is something to read on the man

Another Beltway Bubba?
Fred Thompson has spun an insider background into a good ol'boy image that could take him to the White House

By Michelle Cottle

True story: it is a warm evening in the summer of 1995. A crowd has gathered in the auditorium of a suburban high school in Knoxville, Tennessee. Seated in the audience is a childhood friend of mine who now teaches at the school. On stage is Republican Sen. Fred Dalton Thompson, the lawyer/actor elected in 1994 to serve out the remainder of Vice President Al Gore's Senate term (when Gore's appointed successor retired after just two years). The local TV stations are on hand as Thompson wraps up his presentation on tax reform, in the plain-spoken, down-to-earth style so familiar to those who have seen him in any of his numerous film and television performances.

~snip~
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/archives/9612.cottle.html
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