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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:24 PM
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Subway employee fired for giving sandwich to fire victims...


A Dartmouth, N.S. woman says she was fired from her full-time job at a Subway restaurant because she gave sandwiches to two neighbours who were left homeless and hungry following an apartment fire.

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When Heise was working, the two men came to thank her for her hospitality.
"They showed up. I knew they had no food, no money and no where to live so I gave them each a six-inch sub I was supposed to write down as my employee meal," Heise explained.


Subway employees are entitled to one 12-inch sub or two six-inch subs as a staff lunch, but the meal must be marked down. Heise said she simply forgot to record the free lunch and when she went to work Wednesday, the employee, who never received warnings or punishment in the past, was fired.

"I had no intention of stealing the sandwiches. It was just a really hectic week and I wanted to help the people around me who needed it," she said.

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Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Subway+employee+fired+feeding+fire+victims/3137826/story.html#ixzz0qVyIw1YW
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Now I know most of these stores are franchises, but it just seems that in a world where corporate responsiblity ends up being who can avoid blame that sometimes corporations need to be reminded about basic human dignity. She was giving up her own lunch, for cryin out loud. She has stated she doesn't want to work for them any longer, (imagine that) but maybe they could encourage their franchisees to look for small ways they could help in the community, and that firing someone for taking such initiative might not help other franchisees? I have lost my taste for them for awhile, and I live 80 miles South of the Canadian border.

Anyway, if the mood comes upon you, Subway has a comment page at:

http://www.subway.com/Applications/CustService/frmCustomerService.aspx

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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:29 PM
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1. Damn. Having lost everything when our house burned down, I've been there.
I'm also a frequent buyer from Subway. I will leave them a comment--and it will be along the lines
that I will be buying my subs elsewhere until I hear what has been done to atone for such
an unfeeling act.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:40 PM
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5. Just left this message on Subway's customer service site
I have read about the firing of your employee who gave her meal to neighbors who were left homeless and hungry after an apartment fire. Shame on Subway!
Having lost everything when my home burned down almost 3 years ago, I know what a shocking and traumatic event it can be. Fortunately, our local Red Cross was there within two hours to hand us a credit card with several hundred dollars on it.
I have been a frequent buyer of Subway. I will no longer purchase Subway until I hear of restitution made --like finding a job for this young woman who had the heart to do the right thing, and making a donation to the homeless shelter of her community. There's more to life than money
and corporate profits.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:55 PM
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10. To make it even "better" the fired employee lives in the same building
Her unit is intact, but I still think she's on the list of people who have quite enough to worry about without being fired for a silly reason.

At least the landlord's in her corner about it, given what happened, but still. Ugh.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:32 PM
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2. Subway = Wall-Martization of deli-shops
The workers there literally have to cut slices of meats and cheeses to an exact, corporate HQ-specified size -- a very small size, needless to say. And there can be no more than two slices of these very small pieces placed on each sub.

Meanwhile, your friendly neighborhood deli is more than happy to pile on portions for your sub.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:41 PM
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6. Subway is also THE worst franchisor
They charge their franchisees some of the highest rates of any fast food outlet and are not supportive of their franchisees. They will sell another franchise to someone else who opens it a block away.
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sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:26 PM
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34. True. Subway subs suck, IMHO.
You can get a much better sammich at any mom & pop outfit or even a grocery store deli.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:35 PM
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3. A hard cost loss of what...$1.50 will get them bad press. When did management get so stupid?
I'm in management and I'd be thrilled to death to have Ms. Heise working for me (were I in that industry).

I don't go to Subway, but this would be enough to make me never go there again. So now we're back to stupid management. Idiots.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 04:43 AM
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16. Exactly ...

This is definitely a sign of atrocious management. I'd bet quite a little bit the store where she worked has a turnover rate on the high end of the scale of the average for all stores.

It's crazy how easy this is to recognize when you patronize a particular establishment very long while going to a similar one at another location. I most recently saw it with CVS locally. Since there's basically one every other mile, you can see the differences fairly easily. The one closest to me has a manager who is a little dictator. He irritated me so much one day I couldn't hold my breath any longer as he stood there belittling an obviously new employee trying to deal with 5 o'clock rush traffic. He *could* have opened a new register himself and helped, but, no. He stood there and yelled. All the employees in that place walk around with scowls, bent over, not making eye contact, mostly trying to avoid being seen.

Down the road is another CVS where everyone is friendly. The place is immaculately clean, and all the employees seem generally happy. The manager there is regularly seen doing "grunt work" alongside her employees.

I'm drifting off topic and rambling, I know, but I just thought you hit the nail on the head. Every time I see one of these stories, I see some idiot running the place who seems to have set out in life to prove the Peter Principle personally.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 04:28 PM
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20. I really appreciate it when low-level/frontline employuees have a sense of empowerment
and I ALWAYS make a point of telling the management that when I see it.

I was at Target the other day and they were VERY busy. The wallet I had bought for my son had no barcode--the cashier asked me how much it was, keyed it in with a bypass, and THEN switched on the light. The supervisor was there before I left, sitch was explained--and there was no delay to anyone whatsoever.

I gave everyone involved big kudos. I hardly think that messed up TargetCorp's bottom line as much as dozens of cranky customers leaving their purchases piled up at the cashwrap and walking out would have--and the customers were none the wiser about what happened, either.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:27 PM
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60. My first job outside family business was cashier back before barcodes. We had to know how
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 09:29 PM by KittyWampus
to make change and use the old fashioned scales. Price labels were supposed to be on each item.

Anyway, after a while you learned the prices of just about everything. Or at least the approximate price of everything. If something came along in someone's cart that wasn't priced I'd say "that costs about $ XXX, is that okay with you" and the customer ALWAYS said yes. Just to get out of the store and keep things moving.

I would hate being a cashier today. It's so mindless.

And in the case of this young woman, management can be so heartless.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:35 PM
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4. This whole debacle's going on within two blocks of me
I used to live across the street from the apartment in question and am about ten minutes' walk from both that and the Subway now.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:44 PM
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8. I do hope you'll boycott that establishment
AND let them know that you are doing it.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:46 PM
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9. Definitely the plan, yep
I'm not much of a Subway fan in general, but stuff like that upgrades me from not-a-fan to a-not-fan.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:42 PM
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7. This is getting big play in our media
Honestly, do corporate executives have a brain?

This generates much more NEGATIVE PR than a regular policy of helping people when you can and ENCOURAGING that attitude in your employees.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:09 AM
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11. Especially with social media...
If you're a restaurant owner and you look at somebody sideways--you might
end up on someone's Facebook. Possibly your establishment will get some
press attention because of a Twitter.

I love that social media puts a great deal of power in the hands of the consumer.

Those corporations that refuse to understand that power--are doomed.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:52 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. name one corp that's gone out of business or made any substantial concessions
due to the "power of social media".

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:50 AM
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14. they'll lose a little business, but it will all blow over, and they have a lot of franchisees -
it won't cost them much -- a little pr, a sincere apology --

pfft, people forget.

one of the drawbacks of having most restaurants owned by multinational corps.

this is a gnat in their big picture.

whereas if it were a local or regional business it would be a big deal.



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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:29 AM
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12. I used to work at Subway
And this is simply ridiculous. There's usually a slight discrepency in counted stuff like bread. Shit happens, and overall it evens out.

Now, my store had a rule... we used to swap subs for pizzas at the adjacent pizza place when we got tired of sandwiches, and the owner finally put a stop to that.

Mostly.


But this Subway's owner needs s chill pill.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:38 AM
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13. BTW, Andy Stephenson was a Subway franchise owner.
He once wrote to Subway corporate on my behalf, just because they discontinued my favorite sandwich. I can't imagine how he'd react to this. ;(
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RedRocco Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:28 AM
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17. seafood and crab?
I miss those
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 04:02 PM
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19. No, actually it was the sliced chicken.
Seafood and crab was my mother's first choice. I used to get one for her, too. :(
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 04:30 PM
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21. Oh, me too. Perfect for a hot AZ day with a big iced tea. nt
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:38 AM
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18. fuck you Subway.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 04:36 PM
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22. I sent them a message.
"I read on a news blog this morning that one of your Nova Scotia franchise owners has fired a woman who gave her unfortunate neighbors who lost everything in an apartment fire a couple of 6-inch sandwiches. What did that cost, eight or nine bucks tops?! Is Subway really THAT greedy for profit? Does your company not care at all about the people who make up our communities??

Our household dearly loves your Chicken Teriyaki and Italian subs, but no more! It's nothing but Quiznos and Blimpie now for us until we hear that this horrible wrong has been righted--that poor girl at *least* deserves to get her job back, hopefully with an official apology and a raise. I really expected to see better corporate citizenship than this from Subway."
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:08 PM
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23. so basically, she forgot to record the lunch she was entitled to, right?
I could *almost* see Subway's point if she'd just handed out sandwiches to her neighbors without checking with the manager, but she was entitled to a lunch that she clearly didn't eat herself. It's not like she handed out the two subs and then had two herself that *were* recorded. So this is a bookkeeping error, pure and simple.

And not only are these neighbors homeless, she was generous enough to let them move into her apartment! What a lovely woman. What kind of bonehead would let an employee like this go?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:12 PM
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24. Friday nights are Subway nights at my house...
Hmmm... I spend about $80 a month at Subway... make that SPENT!

I'm going to write them a little non-love note... they hire back the good employee that made one simple mistake, or I go to the grocer and make my own damn sandwiches on Friday nights.

Losers.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:12 PM
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25. Wow..very sad. I hope Subway suffers. The food is nasty anyway.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:12 PM
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26. Update on the story - SHE'S BEEN HIRED BY QUIZNOS!!
http://www.vancouversun.com/Quiznos+hires+Subway+employee+fired+helping+fire+victims/3143540/story.html

HALIFAX — Subway fired her when she gave sub sandwiches to neighbours who had been left homeless by an apartment fire.

Rival Quiznos has now stepped in and given Heidi Heise a new job.

"Heidi is a person who was trying to do the right thing," said Quiznos franchisee Steve Webber on Friday.

"These are the kind of people Quiznos likes to have working in our stores."


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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:38 PM
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27. That's awesome. Win/Win for Quiznos, too.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:52 PM
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29. YAY! Quiznos is pretty good for fast food.
Subway stinks.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:30 PM
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37. They used to have a real kick ass steak sandwich, but they nerfed it.
Just no good anymore. The French Dip is OK.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:07 PM
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31. aw wow!
That's so cool :D
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:08 PM
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32. Delicious news.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:29 PM
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35. *snort* Kudos for the Big Q and some very savvy PR.
:rofl:
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:10 PM
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58. now THAT was a smart move!
good PR and she gets a job. Stupid ass Subway.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:49 PM
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28. those nutty Canadians!!
The socialism fried their brainz

:evilgrin:
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #28
44. Hey! Canadian socialism saves lots of lives, we Americans should
eat a low cal Subway Sandwich.

Well, not any more!

I think we should boycott Subway worldwide... and maybe this guy in Nova Scotia will lose his franchise, job, and home. Then he can beg for a sandwich from someone.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:22 PM
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53. Just wait till he ends up Quiznos getting his sammich from Heidi Heise
:)
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:06 PM
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30. I wrote to them too!
shitheads.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:22 PM
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33. Sent complaint
I made sure to let them know I will be eating at Quiznos and not Subway ever again.
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ProgressiveVictory Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:30 PM
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36. with a full time job, maybe she could have bought the subs for them?
That would be some form of charity.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:31 PM
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38. A full time minimum wage job, or the millions that Subway makes in profit...
Hmm.
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ProgressiveVictory Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:34 PM
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39. I understand the argument. But did she not think she would be in trouble for giving away a sub?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:35 PM
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40. She probably thought her employers would eb stupid to discipline her.
And she was right.
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ProgressiveVictory Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:37 PM
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41. she assumed.
we all know what happens when we assume. The smart thing would have been to purchace the subs.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:42 PM
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45. The assumption was correct.
Furthermore, given that Quizno's gave her a job- she came out a hero, got lots of publicity, a new job, good PR for her new boss, and bad PR for her old boss. Looks like "assume" only made an "ass" out of "u."

And Subway.
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ProgressiveVictory Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:45 PM
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48. lol nice quote from the slammin' salmon movie!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:37 PM
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42. She intended to give away her free employee sub.
According to the article.
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ProgressiveVictory Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:40 PM
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43. did she give away 1 or 2 subs?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:45 PM
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47. According to the article, two six inch subs. Which would have been her free sub
as an employee.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #43
50. Sucks to be you, apparently.
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 06:53 PM by blondeatlast
Please tell me that doesn't matter that much to you, because if you don't I can't possibly take you seriously.

The difference between $6 and $12 to a corporation like Subway REALLY matters that much to you?

:wow:
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ProgressiveVictory Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:00 PM
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51. money doesn't matter, principle matters.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:41 PM
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56. The principle of helping out a human being in need with some kindness? why, dear PV, you DO have
a kind heart! Lovely! :bounce:
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:46 PM
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49. She gave away her lunch
Yes she forgot to mark it down and mentioned up-thread it was a bookkeeping error. In the end she gave away her lunch, nothing more.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:43 PM
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46. Well, we don't know enough of the details. I wonder if we will ever know
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 06:48 PM by activa8tr
Just taking a $10 deduction from this person's weekly wage would have solved the problem as far as "punishment" for the worker.

But no, that couldn't happen, WHY???

By the way, my partner worked in a deli that sold subs, sandwiches get "dropped" on the floor, bread gets burned in the toaster oven, drinks get spilled. In a full day shift, almost everyone screws up once or twice, it's called "employee error loss", $20 a day, $30 a day... even more. Some employees EAT their mistakes...French dressing on steak sub, onions with crabmeat, it happens.

We are NOT getting the full story here.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:04 PM
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52. As someone literally in the neighborhood of all this...
...as in, I can see the apartment building from my bedroom window, and can't see the Subway only because there's a school in the way...

It was just an asshole manager on a power trip. Believe it or not, sometimes that is the whole story.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:37 PM
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55. She. Gave. Them. Her. Lunch. Allowance.
RTFA
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:24 PM
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54. I'll never darken Subway's door again. Piss on them.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:01 PM
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57. This Kind of Shit Can Happen Anywhere.
You can blame Subway if you want, but next week you'll be reading a similar story about McDonald's, or KFC, or Panera Bread. There are douchey managers in every walk of American life, but no moreso than in the food service/retail industries.

Someone from the corporate office will eventually sacrifice this jackass manager like a lamb on an altar, and the whole thing will be forgotten...and then a few weeks later, some other asshole will pull the same kind of stunt.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:19 PM
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59. This is kind of like that Walmart story
of the woman who was fired for stopping someone from shoplifting a computer. It's a company policy to fire someone on the spot for theft. It is considered theft because she did not document taking her lunch as per policy. It sucks but these corporate fiefdoms live and die by their policies. Public schools are the same way.
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