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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:04 PM
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In BP He Trusts: Obama's Point Man Thad Allen Under Fire From Locals Over Spill Response
In BP He Trusts: Obama's Point Man Thad Allen Under Fire From Locals Over Spill Response

Thad Allen, Obama's Oil Point Man, STILL Trusts Discredited BP CEO Tony Hayward



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/11/thad-allen-still-trusts-d_n_609056.html

First Posted: 06-11-10 12:19 PM | Updated: 06-11-10 12:59 PM

Dan Froomkin

The Obama administration's new get-tough-with-BP public relations campaign was badly undercut Friday morning when Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen reaffirmed his confidence in the oil giant's widely-despised and discredited CEO, Tony Hayward.

Three weeks ago, Allen, who is leading the response to the massive oil spill poisoning the Gulf of Mexico, famously told CBS News: "I trust Tony Hayward."

It became a rallying cry for those who believe the Obama administration has been too deferential to a company whose interests are not at all aligned with the public's.

Now, after 53 days during which BP has just made the leak worse while spreading misinformation intended to minimize its possible liability, Allen is sticking to his earlier statement.

Asked at a Friday news conference if he still trusts Hayward, Allen responded: "The fact of the matter is, we have to have a cooperative, productive relationship for this thing to work moving forward. When I talk to him and ask for answers, I get them. You could characterize that as trust, partnership, cooperation, collaboration, whatever. But this has to be a unified effort moving forward if we are to get this thing solved."

So does that mean yes? "If you call that trust, yes," Allen said.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:07 PM
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1. K&R and it is still 0 ..why are people unrec'ing? they don't want truth?
amazing truely amazing..:wtf: :wtf:

So are we on the gulf supposed to just go f ourselves?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:09 PM
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2. This makes me sad. I honestly feel Allen has integrity, is being honest and believes
he's got a good relationship w/BP in that he's getting all the info he needs. I think he's too trusting and maybe that's from being in the military and not in the corporate world for his entire life.

Yesterday I heard Mike Papantonio say he felt like Allen is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. It seems that way at times :(.

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:15 PM
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5. That's funny
I was in the Army, and I didn't trust civilians at all. Not sure how other veterans feel, but the number of civilians I trusted while I was on active duty I could count with one hand, and not use all five fingers.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:24 PM
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8. I defer to your experience then. My dad was a flight surgeon in the Navy and
I don't recall him expressing distrust of civilians, although I admit, the topic never came up.

So why do you think Allen seems somewhat naive? (If you feel that way - but I that's the feeling I get from him.)
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:58 PM
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14. I was in the Army & in corporations & I trusted the leadership in neither.
The best rarely, if ever, gets to the top of any organization. If you are great you get used, overused and have your spirit tapped out by corrupt systems. Those who work the hardest aren't rewarded the most, they just get more work shoved in front of them.

Look around at corporate leaders. Enron's executives said they didn't even know what was going on in their companies. The tobacco CEOs had no knowledge of what was in their products. BP had no idea what they were doing and had zero ways to stop spills at 5,000 feet. So how did they get to be corporate leaders? Not by brains or talent, that's for sure. They get there by the usual methods, backstabbing, stealing other people's ideas, manipulation, lying and being dishonest. And to reach the elite top of any corporation you have to prove you can be trusted by going along with one of their shady, corrupt deals, just like the mob forces you to do something to prove you're one of them.

What's sad is the control these corporate mobs have over our government. They own the house of representatives. They own the US Senate. And it appears as if they own the presidency. So that leaves us hard working, honest and good people out in the cold, while corporations are defiling our government and our environment.

Thad Allen doesn't seem to be very bright. Every time I see him he just repeats what BP tells him to say. He seems like a BP prostitute. But that brings up another trait it takes to be a 'leader' in almost any field: Cowardice...
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:18 PM
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6. he has helped keep media from telling the truth and the whole story..
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 12:24 PM by flyarm
he has helped BP in their propaganda..he is a tool of BP!

From a gulf coast resident!

Am I supposed to like this tool???????????? when my water will be effected and my back yard..the Gulf? when he has done al he can to keep truth from seeing the light of day?

posted by Kpete..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8537183


From the Ground: BP Censoring Media, Destroying Evidence
Source: Huffington Post

...... BP is using federal agencies to shield itself from public accountability.


For example, while flying on a small plane from New Orleans to Orange Beach, the pilot suddenly exclaimed, "Look at that!" The thin red line marking the federal flight restrictions of 3,000 feet over the oiled Gulf region had just jumped to include the coastal barrier islands off Alabama.

"There's only one reason for that," the pilot said. "BP doesn't want the media taking pictures of oil on the beaches. You should see the oil that's about six miles off the coast," he said grimly. We looked down at the wavy orange boom surrounding the islands below us. The pilot shook his head. "There's no way those booms are going to stop what's offshore from hitting those beaches."

BP knows this as well -- boom can only deflect oil under the calmest of sea conditions, not barricade it -- so they have stepped up their already aggressive effort to control what the public sees.

.............

With oil undisputedly hitting the beaches and the number of dead wildlife mounting, BP is switching tactics. In Orange Beach, people told me BP wouldn't let them collect carcasses. Instead, the company was raking up carcasses of oiled seabirds. "The heads separate from the bodies," one upset resident told me. "There's no way those birds are going to be autopsied. BP is destroying evidence!"

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riki-ott/from-the-ground-...

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this is my water supply..am I supposed to cheer for the guy who has covered the asses of so many with BP and our Federal government??????????


Spill may stop 16 to 19 million gallons of drinking water daily for Tampa Bay residents
...Emergency planning sources in Florida have informed that the state faces severe fresh water shortages and power blackouts if the thick crude oil from the Deepwater Horizon disaster clogs sea water intakes at the largest seawater desalinization plant in the United States - the Tampa Bay Seawater Desalinization Plant at Apollo Beach.

The plant, which uses seawater reverse osmosis to turn seawater into 16 to 19 million gallons of drinking water daily for residents of the Tampa Bay area, faces the threat of filtration membranes becoming clogged if oil from the Gulf of Mexico enters its intake pipes. Such an event would render the plant unable to process seawater, resulting in a major fresh water shortage for Tampa Bay.

Similarly, oil clogging the water cooling intakes at the Crystal River Nuclear Power Plant on the Gulf of Mexico coast, some 80 miles north of Tampa, could force the shutdown of the Unit 3 pressurized water nuclear reactor. Such an event would result in power shutdowns in the Florida areas served by the power plant.*

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1...


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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:10 PM
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3. Getting answers and getting the TRUTH are vastly different things.
This response, to me, is indicative of the incestuous relationship between BP and the Govt.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:18 PM
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7. yes indeed! eom
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:11 PM
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4. Thad Allen (unofficial spokesman for BP) is in way over his head on this one.
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 12:36 PM by Owl
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:29 PM
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9. You know something.....
this 'relationship' that Thad has with Tony seems to me to be more of one resembling 'c*cksucking.'

Isn't that what politicians do for the CEOs?

So he trusts him not to c*m in his mouth?

Sorry....but I've had it with these fools. Thad headed up the response to Katrina...need I say more?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:48 PM
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13. On Katrina, he was given responsibility over Katrina after
Michael Brown got fired. It happened well after the storm had hit and the city was drowning.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:31 PM
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10. Government is the crowd control subsidiary of Capital
Could it be any clearer?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:42 PM
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11. Too late for me to rec.
But I'll kick it.

The government has dropped the ball badly in this disaster.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:47 PM
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12. This man by his inaction and stalling
is destroying our wetlands/marsh.Just listen to Billy Nunguesser, he has already called for his firing.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 01:35 PM
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15. welcome....
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:31 PM
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16. Thank you for the welcome, but more, thank you for caring.
This man, when asked several weeks ago about the slow response said in a flippant tone "I guess we're just slow and stupid".

Yes you are!
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