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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:13 AM
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You think a mosque by the WTC was a problem? One in Staten Island brings...
out the all those feelings of brotherhood and joy.

Just few tidbits of the All-American bigotry, fear, and ignorance mentioned in the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/nyregion/11mosque.html?scp=1&sq=mosque%20staten%20Island&st=cse


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“Wouldn’t you agree that every terrorist, past and present, has come out of a mosque?” asked one woman who stood up Wednesday night during a civic association meeting on Staten Island to address representatives of a group that wants to convert a Roman Catholic convent into a mosque in the Midland Beach neighborhood.

“No,” began Ayman Hammous, president of the Staten Island branch of the group, the Muslim American Society — though the rest of his answer was drowned out by catcalls and boos from among the 400 people who packed the gymnasium of a community center.

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But just 20 minutes earlier, as Bill Finnegan stood at the microphone, came the meeting’s single moment of hushed silence. Mr. Finnegan said he was a Marine lance corporal, home from Afghanistan, where he had worked as a mediator with warring tribes.

After the sustained standing ovation that followed his introduction, he turned to the Muslims on the panel: “My question to you is, will you work to form a cohesive bond with the people of this community?” The men said yes.

Then he turned to the crowd. “And will you work to form a cohesive bond with these people — your new neighbors?”

The crowd erupted in boos. “No!” someone shouted.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:18 AM
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1. Stuff like this makes me ill.
I can't imagine this sort of "protest" (quotations because we're actually looking at slander and intimidation) taking place against any other religious group and being met with such blase acceptance.
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:30 AM
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3. Sometimes I'd swear that science is wrong and that there
really are two species of humans. I understand my dog and cat better than I understand hateful people like those.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:46 AM
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4. because dogs and cats are very forthright
Animals can feel emotions such as hatred (witness those abused animals who finally "get back" at humanity) but the important thing is they don't lie. if an animal hates you, you will know it. If an animal loves you, you will know it. if it fears you, you will know it. Humans love to hide and cover all these emotions. These people who hate Muslims but are pretending that they're worried about traffic.

At least they could be honest and admit their own hatreds. They'd still be disgusting but at least they'd be being honest.
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:23 AM
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10. I just don't get it. The hatred, I mean, I do know what you
mean about animals. They're like little kids, they're totally honest. I've always thought that animals and toddlers are much better people than most people.

I just don't get hating people who haven't personally harmed you; never have, never will. Thankfully, where I live people of all colors and religions live, work and play together. After 9/11, when I began seeing the kind of hateful things that were being done to and said about Muslims it made me sick and ashamed of people. I wasn't at all political before that, I spent my life thinking all I needed to do was watch the debates and pick someone to vote for. I thought there were people who were more important and much smarter than I was in charge. I started paying attention when they were war mongering all over the tv and figured out that we have idiots in charge and we need to remind them who they're supposed to represent every chance we get.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:46 PM
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18. I have a friend who said that very thing about 25 years ago...Guess he was presicent...
As time has passed, I agree more and more with him. Two species. One of which has the empathy gene..and the other which is totally lacking it. That is just the most obvious difference.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:43 AM
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12. Tim McVie was a Christian....
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:44 AM
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13. I thought he was agnostic? n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:40 AM
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14. Actually was raised a Roman Catholic....
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:19 AM
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2. That's just awful n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:50 AM
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5. “Wouldn’t you agree that every terrorist, past and present, has come out of a mosque?”
Well, actually......









....no. I wouldn't agree with that at all.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:49 PM
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19. Not to mention the despots of many S. American and European countries..who may never even have
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 03:52 PM by BrklynLiberal
heard the word "mosque" in their lives.

What they did to the people of their countries would be considered terrorism.

hmmm and what would the people who blew up buildings and killed civilians in Ireland be called?

http://www.terrorism-research.com/history/early.php

The French Revolution provided the first uses of the words "Terrorist" and "Terrorism". Use of the word "terrorism" began in 1795 in reference to the Reign of Terror initiated by the Revolutionary government. The agents of the Committee of Public Safety and the National Convention that enforced the policies of "The Terror" were referred to as 'Terrorists". The French Revolution provided an example to future states in oppressing their populations. It also inspired a reaction by royalists and other opponents of the Revolution who employed terrorist tactics such as assassination and intimidation in resistance to the Revolutionary agents. The Parisian mobs played a critical role at key points before, during, and after the Revolution. Such extra-legal activities as killing prominent officials and aristocrats in gruesome spectacles started long before the guillotine was first used.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:56 AM
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6. just wow
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:21 AM
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9. Holy... I can see a romantic comedy in the works!
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 01:23 AM by Chulanowa
When Hate Girl met Rage Boy!



it was love at first GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH! Oh how their eyes sparkle.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:40 AM
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11. OK, that's funny.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 02:39 PM
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16. cute couple
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:56 PM
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23. She's supposed to extend the other three fingers when she does that. nt
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 03:56 PM by LeftyMom
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:07 AM
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7. Sorry folks you are W R O N G.............
you are the terrorists in my mind, close minded little fucks that can't face change in their lives....give me a real Christian any day of week, you know......SOMEONE WHO FOLLOWS JESUS, not just believes....big difference.

matthew 25....read it, know it, live it.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:11 AM
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8. Mission accomplished Fox News.
Mission accomplished. :thumbsup:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:40 PM
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:35 PM
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17. How soon till we have witchburnings...along with their cats, of course...and perhaps a brand
new 21st Century full blown inquisition...

The patients are running the asylum...there can be no other explanation.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:50 PM
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20. Isn't Staten Island where VIto Fossella hailed from?
'Nuff said.


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:53 PM
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22. BINGO!!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:52 PM
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21. Any questions on who the enemy is?
fuck these people.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:57 PM
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24. Welcome to America. We used to really hate the Catholics and Jews,
and the Italians and Greeks, the Chinese and don't forget the Japanese. Now it seems to be Muslims.

And the neopagans....:eyes: In Minnesota I hear they tell Iowan jokes, at least Garrison Keillor says so.

We have a long, entrenched history of hating who is different, who we don't understand, who we are afraid of. It's a human trait we should have outgrown long ago. It's a shame.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:14 PM
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25. Horrible.
But not surprising.

I posted something on Facebook about the Ground Zero mosque (that isn't at GZ of course). I've never seen such hateful posts. Even I was shocked.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:34 PM
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26. I suppose we should remove all Christian Churches
near the Oklahoma City Bombing site..because Timothy McVeigh was Christian. WTF happened to freedom of religion, and since when have we declared war against an entire religious belief?
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