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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:33 AM
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A Note from Abby

http://soloround.blogspot.com/

Hey everyone,

Sorry I haven't written in so long as you probably already know I had a pretty rough couple of days. I can't write much now as I am typing on a french key pad as well as trying to stay seated in a bouncy fishing boat.

The long and the short of it is, well, one long wave, and one short mast (short meaning two inch stub.) I'll write a more detailed blog later, just wanted to let every one know I am safe and sound on a great big fishing boat headed I am not exactly sure where.

Crazy is the word that really describes everything that has happened best.

Within a few minutes of being on board the fishing boat, I was already getting calls from the press. I don't know how they got the number but it seems everybody is eager to pounce on my story now that something bad has happened.

There are plenty of things people can think of to blame for my situation; my age, the time of year and many more. The truth is, I was in a storm and you don't sail through the Indian Ocean without getting in at least one storm. It wasn't the time of year it was just a Southern Ocean storm. Storms are part of the deal when you set out to sail around the world.

As for age, since when does age create gigantic waves and storms?

I keep hitting the wrong keys and am still trying to get over the fact that I will never see my Wild Eyes again. So Ill write more later.

Abby


Glad you're ok, Abby. And let me add that I admire your youthful thirst for adventure and I hope someday soon you'll accomplish your dream of sailing solo around the world.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:34 AM
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1. She writes very well for a sixteen year old..
Clearly an intelligent young woman.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:36 AM
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2. Fuck the hand-wringers and joy-smashers.
I like this young woman and find her an inspiration.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:41 AM
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4. She's a hero to me. I'm sure she is and will be an inspiration to
not only her peers but also to younger girls. I'm sure her story will fire many young imaginations.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:02 PM
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10. You said it. Go Abby! nt
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:08 PM
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30. And I know You are chipping in to pay for her rescue efforts.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:19 PM
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34. Well said! nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:25 PM
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38. Agreed. I have a 13 yo son that "likes" her too--and I'm all for that.
Agutsy young woman who stands up to her critics? My son has GREAT taste, I would say.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:36 PM
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40. Knowing what you're doing cuts your risks.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:39 AM
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3. "It wasn't the time of year..."
She has much to learn before her next go round... and with all the money she's looking forward to earning, it would be good form to send a bit of it to the folks who had to come find and pluck her out of the sea.

In the meantime, hope she enjoys the fishing....
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:49 AM
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6. yep - she, along with her parents, are in line to make a pile
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 11:52 AM by DrDan
Letterman, Leno, the View, Today Show, CBS Morning News . . . . there will be plenty of airtime to satisfy the hero-worshipers
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:59 AM
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9. The Australian Maritime Safety Authority's going to foot the bill
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/12/2925347.htm

though I suggest at least some good faith payment or donation- as the British backpacker did after Aussie rescue crews looked high and low for his ass in the Blue Mountains for 12 days last year.

Not sure how much he got for his story- around half a mil I think. Ponied up around $150,000 of that IIRC.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:21 PM
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17. a generous donation would go a long way in terms of PR
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:40 PM
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26. As a Yank, I apologize for the expense and risk incurred by the Australian Rescue Service
in rescuing "our" ill-prepared fame-seeker. I agree with the poster above - a generous donation from the book and movie proceeds is highly appropriate.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:46 PM
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27. Works both ways
From the link:

"We would expect people to rescue any Australian yachtsman in these conditions," he said.

"It's our obligation to do this and we'll fulfil those obligations as Australia does."
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:14 PM
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31. Yes, unfortunately rescue services often have to save people from their own foolishness.
Hopefully, that doesn't stretch their resources too thin in case of a legitimate accident.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:20 PM
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16. Agree. (you left out Oprah).
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:47 AM
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5. K&R
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:49 AM
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7. Thank you so much for posting this.
I am stunned at the public hanging of this incredible, courageous and inspirational girl and her family. All I can figure is that those that can do and those that can't or won't sit at their keyboards and judge.

:toast: to Abby
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:53 AM
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8. as opposed to those who sit at their keyboards and relive her experiences vicariously
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:03 PM
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13. I live on a boat and spend much of my time sailing, so if you are directing this at
me, you are way off base.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:23 PM
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18. there is no lack of hero-worshipers . . . .
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:27 PM
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20. Very true. Amelia Earhart was my hero as a child.
I have had many heroes, and they have inspired me to be who I am and be able to do what I do, which is live off the grid and work as a steward of the ocean and it's inhabitants.

Or did you mean to imply that heroes are bad things?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:29 PM
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22. I think we both know what I am talking about
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:32 PM
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24. What??!? I guess we are done here. I wish you fair winds and following seas.
:hi:
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 01:55 AM
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58. Earhart crashed at sea, whereabouts unknown
Abby got wiped out by a storm.

Maybe you need to reconsider your heroes.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:21 PM
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35. Wow
Very cold and uncalled for.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:25 PM
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49. no more so than the comment it was in response to
The suggestion that anyone who criticizes her or her attempt is one "who can't or won't (and so) sits at their keyboards and judges" (or, as another poster put it, a "Patheitic (sic) self-loathing losers who failed to live their dreams") is as silly and unfounded as suggesting that anyone who praises her is simply living vicariously through her.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:02 PM
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11. I wouldn't characterize it as a public hanging
just a bit of annoyance at the irresponsibility. In my case, I form that opinion based on what several experts on the matter have said (in addition to my belief that doing extreme things to "be the youngest" is aberrant behavior).
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:08 PM
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14. And I base mine on personal experience with the family, her team and my own expertise
in the area.

There is more than annoyance being expressed. She and her family are being slaughtered here and elsewhere. The mischaracterizations of Abby, her parents, their economic status, her reasons for pursuing this and what she had to do to make it happen are stunning and pathetic. They say much more about those that are doing it than Abby.

The fact that she already knows what is being done to her in the press and blogosphere is beyond heartbreaking.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:28 PM
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21. Patheitc self-loathing losers who failed to live their dreams. n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:33 PM
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25. How long before the next kid tries to best the record? At 15- or 14
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 12:46 PM by depakid
or at 13 climbing Everest?

You and I will have to agree to disagree on this. I find it irresponsible and a disturbing trend.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:14 PM
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32. Admiral Farragut received his first command, a whaling ship, at age 12.
What's aberrant and disturbing is how young adults in our modern culture are prevented from experiencing any real adventures in their teens. Sixteen is old enough.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:25 PM
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37. Good point.
One thing we learned rather quickly while hosting exchange students from Europe was how much more mature and independent they were than their American counterparts of the same age. American parents do baby their teenagers far more so than many other countries do.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:20 PM
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48. Oh god, so true.
The goalposts keep moving up too. We might eventually get to the point where parents come up with "scientific" reasons to not let their 30-year-old walk to the corner store by herself.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:29 PM
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39. +1. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:12 PM
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43. Now we're making comparisons to 19th Century figures to what amount to reality TV events?
:crazy:

As I said on a previous thread- these fiasco's won't going to stop until one of these kids gets maimed or killed- or their parents end up charged with child endangerment.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 07:05 AM
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62. Barely trained kids driving a car on the highways of major cities is worse
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 07:12 AM by lostnfound
I go back to the 19th century because people weren't expected to remain infants until age 18 back then.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. She's 16, not 11, and 16 is essentially an adult in practical terms (though not legal) with a well-raised kid. I'm not sure US jurisdiction extends to the Indian ocean, anyway. I'm in favor of personal freedom and I'm a little surprised that you aren't, in this case.

People (not me) put their kids on horses for horseback riding when they are age 5. Young people are surely out learning fishing (on the great seas) in the world's traditional fishing economies well before 18. Is it the length of the journey, the location, the fact that she's an American, or what that you have a problem with?

Childhood as a mental state was extended intentionally for reasons of transforming the economy in the early 1900s, which entailed making sure that people stayed mostly passive and obedient in classrooms until age 18. For the first 12 years of your rational life, you are expected to sit passively indoors for 10 months a year listening and performing upon command various tasks involving pencils, paper, keyboards, and books. Innate in humans is a desire to challenge themselves against nature and the elements. This kid is going to be far healthier than her peers who never had such experiences.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:23 PM
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36. In agreement with your take on this.
But then again, some people have made picking apart rainbows and unicorns into a sporting event.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 02:01 AM
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59. You know the old saying
If a person doesn't want their picture being taken, they have no business being a star. She SOUGHT this publicity, in the internet age, so she should suffer the slings and arrows accordingly.

If she is so goddamned tough and courageous, surely she can withstand a few grousers on a chat forum, huh? ;-)
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:03 PM
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12. stupid people hate sailing.....
because you have to have inteligence to be a sailor, among other things....like courage, this young lady has BIGGER balls than any of the assholes that are condeming her. The dumbing down of the world continues.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention; a sailboat doesn't need OIL, so the powers that be must condemn.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:19 PM
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15. The finger-waggers, the Bubblewrap crowd,
and the "Won't-somebody-PLEASE-think-of-the-children" contingent can all go hang. Abby is a brave young woman with a true spirit of adventure. Cowards scorn her because she demonstrates what they lack.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:56 PM
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29. No bubble wrap here.
Climbing, diving, surfing, sailing, etc. are all fine activities for young people to do- but there's a healthy sense of perspective to be had, proper planning and realistic limitations to respect.

Failure to do so often means someone else's life ends up on the line.

Bottom line on this case is that sailing solo into the southern ocean and across the Australian Bight in the middle of winter is stupid thing for anyone to do.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:46 PM
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28. The epoxy resin the boat is made of comes from oil.
So do the mylar sails. There is about 100 gallons of diesel fuel and several gallons of motor oil of on board that will spill into the ocean when the boat is sunk (it's too far to tow during winter).
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:27 PM
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19. I cannot believe there are people un-reccing this. I learned a while ago to
ignore it but this is just pathetic.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:31 PM
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23. Call me a spoil sport...
But, I still think that it was irresponsible to allow a sixteen year old to go sailing around the planet alone.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that she's safe.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:17 PM
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33. No responsible parent would allow a 16 year old to attempt such a journey.


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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:17 PM
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47. Since when did "responsible parent" become a synonym of "Helicopter Parent"?
She's 16, not 6. get a grip and quit infantalizing teens.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:19 PM
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52. She's a child.
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 11:22 PM by TexasObserver
What's your excuse?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:50 PM
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53. She's a young adult.
In my mind "Child" means "pre-Adolescent", It really bugs me when teens are called "children". This continuing infantilization of teens, and even people in their early 20s, needs to stop. In most non-Western societies you were/are an adult at 15.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 12:15 AM
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54. They all emerge from their cocooned, embryonic states
at 12:00:01 on their eighteenth birthdays.

And they magically, suddenly possess all those adult skills they were prevented from learning while they were bubble-wrapped.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 01:35 AM
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56. LOL!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 12:24 AM
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55. the rhetoric on either side has been ramped up beyond reason
but that's not particularly unusual, I suppose ...
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:39 PM
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41. I'm not going to get involved in whether this was responsible or not.
I will leave that to others as they will and will respect their opinions. The family decided the risks were acceptable compared to the notoriety and money that would accompany it. That is, after all, what this failed misadventure was always all about. It's all about risk vs reward. The child is safe and the money will start rolling in if it hasn't already so their gamble paid off. No harm no foul.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 02:19 PM
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42. The script for the TV movie on Lifetime has already been started.
Of course, it will star Judith Long as the 16 year old girl.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:24 PM
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45. Here ya go:
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 08:25 PM by depakid
In Los Angeles, the news of the sighting was greeted with cheers, applause and cries of ''Praise the Lord'' at a late-night church vigil where 100 had gathered to pray for Abby. They knew her parents, Laurence and Marianne Sunderland, fellow worshippers at the non-denominational Blessed Hope Chapel...

...The parishioners' vigil was loosely timed to coincide with the sweep by the Qantas Airbus over Abby's last known position. In Los Angeles, Pastor Joe Schimmel had told his congregation: ''What you are doing is praying that they get a visual. We hope that she's right side up.''

His worshippers answered: ''We pray for a miracle, Father.''

Marianne Sunderland, three weeks from giving birth to her eighth child, relayed the news to her pastor almost immediately, about 11.16pm LA time....

...Abby sailed from the Los Angeles port of Marina del Rey on January 23.

Her non-stop voyage effectively ended on April 24 with the announcement that she would need to stop at Cape Town for repairs to her yacht's autopilot system. The trip resumed on May 21. Abby's course sent her deep into the Southern Ocean's Roaring Forties. At the time of her distress signals, her position was estimated at 42 degrees south.

It was this that Los Angeles meteorologist Mark Michelson found most troubling. He described the route chosen for the teenager as ''outrageous''. ''It's bad enough in the summer, December and January,'' Mr Michelson said. ''It can be pretty challenging then. But 10 days before winter? In the peak of the season? I was perplexed.

''It's a shorter ride, but faster is a relative term when you've rolled the boat four times and your rigging is in the water. I'm dismayed that they gave her a course this far south. That's just asking for it at this time of the year.''

At the Blessed Hope Chapel there had been a different kind of asking. They had prayed for Abby. They had prayed that the clouds would part and that she would be seen. And for these believers, it was the most amazing thing: a prayer answered.

More: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/teen-sailor-found-and-rescuers-on-way-20100611-y3og.html
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:17 PM
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44. So if she had died?
:shrug:
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:08 PM
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51. Same thing applies.
They were willing to accept the consequences either way. In the worst case scenario the girl would still be immortalized, she just wouldn't be around to see it, but she knew that going in and went anyway. She weighed that against the possible rewards and decided it was worth the risk. So again, no harm no foul. The family was together in it for good or bad and even if she never came back the money would still be there.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:16 PM
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:26 PM
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50. How quickly they forget Jessica Watson
The 16-year-old Australian sailor who circumnavigated the world SUCCESSFULLY. Finished on May 15, only a month ago. (She's a few months older than Sunderland, so Sunderland would have beaten her record if she'd succeeded).

Jessica Watson, who proved that it IS possible for a 16-year-old girl to do this. She got some haterade spilled on her too, but not nearly so much - so much less that I bet a lot of the pearl-clutchers on this thread never even heard about it, or refrained from unleashing as much venom because it's a lot easier to kick someone when they're down than to take on a winner.

I think Tall Poppy Syndrome has a lot to do with it, myself.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 02:10 AM
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60. Watson had better timing
Sunderland started too late. That has been THE main point of contention of veteran sailors. Timing. Judgment.

Cracks me up people are so defensive of her when some of us dissent. So what? Some of us think she is an idiot, and others want to kiss her ass.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 01:08 PM
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63. That's true.
I don't know much about sailing and I won't pretend I do, but I think it's possible to think Sunderland made a big mistake with the timing without also thinking some of the extremely nasty things people are saying about her and her family.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 01:51 AM
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57. GO AWAY, ABBY
15 minutes are up. Buh bye.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 02:11 AM
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61. Mature, brave and correct. I wish her luck in her endeavors yet to come. Well done.
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