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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:45 PM
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New French emergency birth control pill heading to US - anti choicers gnash their teeth
http://www.techjackal.net/other/2010/06/12/new-french-emergency-contraceptive-pill-may-soon-be-available-in-us/

A new version of the controversial morning after pill may soon be available to women in the United States. The pill is currently used in France and is sold under the name ella. The pill is similar to the RU-486 or a pill used to induce an abortion. However, ella is considered a contraceptive. Ella is used to prevent pregnancy for up to 5 days or 120 hours after a woman has unprotected sex. The current pill available in the US is only effective the first 72 hours. Ella is available in 22 countries as an emergency contraceptive.

Pro-Life groups are opposing this new contraceptive because of the chemical similarities to the abortion pill. However, ella has never been tested as an abortion method, nor does the manufacturer intend to market it for that purpose. The morning after pill also known as Plan B sparked controversy as well, but did manage to get approved. Plan B increases the body’s production of the hormone progesterone, reducing or completely halting the ovaries’ ability to produce eggs. Opponents of the Plan B pill claim the drug makes the uterus unsuitable for a fertilized egg and equates it to the same thing as an abortion.

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:50 PM
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1. well, well, so the "uterus police" are at work again, are they?
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 04:52 PM by CTyankee
Can't have those uteri "unsuitable" can we?

How about a kick in your nuts instead?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:54 PM
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2. +1000000000
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 04:55 PM by BrklynLiberal
I wish that "pro-life" bullshit would end..and the accurate name of that movement would become better known.. "forced birthers"
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:13 PM
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4. I only call them "forced-birth." They want to force birth, regardless of the situation.
They are not "pro-life" in the least. If they were, they'd care about life- the life of the mother and the life situation. That's what's real, not a possible potential for a life, which is what they are so desperately trying to "protect."
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:41 PM
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13. if they were Pro-Life they would provide universal health care
for all including illegal immigrants. They would support welfare and food stamps so no one would ever go hungry. If they truly cared about life and not simply making women carry every pregnancy to term even if it kills her they would support those things and a living wage as well.

for a time I called 'em pro-pregnancy and then thought how most of them don't support welfare or health care for pregnant women it really didn't fit. Forced-birthers is good or fetal fetishists, imo.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:42 PM
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15. You are 100% correct.
Anyone who is against personal, private medical choices for women, and against sensible sex education and against full universal health care for all is simply too pig-headed for me to even listen to their opinions. I've heard it all before, anyway. :eyes:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:55 PM
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3. "uterus police'.... LOL
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:14 PM
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5. "Conservative Crotch Nannies"
I've stopped 'em in their tracks with that one a time er two. As a bonus it works for their homophobia too.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:27 PM
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6. I am going to remember THAT one!
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 05:30 PM by BrklynLiberal
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:26 PM
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10. In Ceausescu's Romania the women called the fetal fetishists the Menstrual Police
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 07:34 PM by Shallah Kali
please read the entire article at the link:

from Karen Breslau, "Overplanned Parenthood: Ceausescu's cruel law", Newsweek, Jan. 22, 1990, p. 35.
http://www.ceausescu.org/ceausescu_texts/overplanned_parenthood.htm

Overplanned Parenthood:
Ceausescu's cruel law

Nicolae Ceausescu loved nothing better than a monument to himself. But his ministerial palaces and avenues paled next to another of his schemes for building socialism: a plan to increase Romania's population from 23 million to 30 million by the year 2000. He began his campaign in 1966 with a decree that virtually made pregnancy a state policy. "The fetus is the property of the entire society," Ceausescu proclaimed. "Anyone who avoids having children is a deserter who abandons the laws of national continuity."

It was one of the late dictator's cruelest commands. At first Romania's birthrate nearly doubled. But poor nutrition and inadequate prenatal care endangered many pregnant women. The country's infant-mortality rate soard to 83 deaths in every 1,000 births (against a Western European average of less than 10 per thousand). About one in 10 babies was born underweight; newborns weighing 1,500 grams (3 pounds, 5 ounces) were classified as miscarriages and denied treatment. Unwanted survivors often ended up in orphanages. "The law only forbade abortion," says Dr. Alexander Floran Anca of Bucharest. "It did nothing to promote life."

Ceausescu made mockery of family planning. He forbade sex education. Books on human sexuality and reproduction were classified as "state secrets," to be used only as medical textbooks. With contraception banned, Romanians had to smuggle in condoms and birth-control pills. Though strictly illegal, abortions remained a widespread birth-control measure of last resort. Nationwide, Western sources estimate, 60 percent of all pregnancies ended in abortion or miscarriage.

The government's enforcement techniques were as bad as the law. Women under the age of 45 were rounded up at their workplaces every one to three months and taken to clinics, where they were examined for signs of pregnancy, often in the presence of government agents - dubbed the "menstrual police" by some Romanians. A pregnant woman who failed to "produce" a baby at the proper time could expect to be summoned for questioning. Women who miscarried were suspected of arranging an abortion. Some doctors resorted for forging statistics. "If a child died in our district, we lost 10 to 25 percent of our salary," says Dr. Geta Stanescu of Bucharest. "But it wasn't our fault: we had no medicine or milk, and the families were poor."



this is not some fictional maybe future but a real country where authoritarian control freaks with a fetal fixation took power.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:31 PM
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11. Seems to be a habit among genocidal dictators
the man himself was pretty much the same way, with a heaping helping of racism mixed in:

http://noapologies.ca/?p=5233

“Hitler’s opposition to abortion is sometimes portrayed as evidence of his traditional Christian moral values. However, Hitler never appealed to religion, God, or divine revelation to ground his opposition to abortion. Rather he insisted on vigorous enforcement of extant antiabortion laws because he considered German population expansion vital to the improvement of the Aryan race. Also, Hitler did not oppose abortion per se, but only abortion of healthy, Aryan babies. Abortion was permitted – even encouraged or required – for those who might produce “inferior” offspring or for Jews. The ultimate authority was not God, the Bible, religious tradition, or any fixed moral code containing the command, “thou shalt not kill.” Rather, for Hitler the highest arbiter of morality and political policies was the evolutionary advancement of the human species. In the final analysis, Hitler based his morality on a racist form of evolutionary ethics.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:28 PM
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7. Good, the more safe choices the better.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:47 PM
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8. STOP THE FUCKING! PLEASE! FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS, WE MUST STOP THE FUCKING!
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:56 PM
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9. Ah the French,
They like to fuck and still worry about unwanted pregnancy.
That's civilized.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:36 PM
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12. So do they want MORE abortions or LESS? That's the real question here. They
don't want to give women the option to prevent pregnancy? Guess what? That will result in more abortions. Hello? Could you fundie blockheads listen instead of screaming about your black and white religious beliefs and accept REALITY for a change?

The hardcore "pro-life" activists are the most frustrating, useless people on the public square.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:43 PM
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14. I believe life begins at conception....
.... but pregnancy doesn't begin until implantation, according to, you know, doctors and all.... So it technically cannot be an abortion. But naturally the pro-life movement doesn't seem to realize that little scientific fact.

If pregnancy began at conception, women would be miscarrying an average of three times the amount of children born. If Ma Nature (or God or natural selection, depending on your beliefs) lets that many children die... maybe they ought to think about just how much value their own creator places in those lives.
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