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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:51 PM
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Anyone watching PBS, Jim Lehrer NewsHour? Pretty detailed segment on Posada.
Edited on Wed May-09-07 06:54 PM by scarletwoman
It's really quite fascinating to me that they are actually doing a segment on Posada!

I've got to listen now, but I'll post a summary in a bit...

sw
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:04 PM
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1. I saw that it was on but wasn't able to pay close attention to it...
...we always watch the Newshour - our daughter has a crush on Ray Suarez!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:21 PM
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11. I hope you will watch the PBS site for when the transcript gets posted.
As I posted below, I was unable to do the kind of follow-up I had originally hoped to make. My apologies.

I'm in the Central Time Zone -- if you're out West, perhaps you can still catch the program. The Posada segment comes near the end.

sw
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:21 PM
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2. I'd like to know, thanks! n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:11 PM
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8. My apologies -- shortly after the segment ended, my 'puter froze up and I had to reboot.
Meanwhile, I ended up having two rather involved phone conversations, and now I've kind of lost track of what I wanted to post. Sorry.

If you really are interested, check the PBS NewsHour site later and look for the transcript -- they will post one eventually.

As I posted to another commenter on this thread, just the fact that the NewsHour did a story about Posada at ALL is rather amazing to me.

sw
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:28 PM
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3. whitewash...waste of time
mostly irrelevant information, when not downright deceptive

example: quoted without comment the reason he hasn't been deported to Cuba/Venezuela for prosecution.....he might be tortured

well, PBS, he was in PRISON in Venezuela before, and was NOT tortured. the security was SO LAX that he was able to walk out, disguised as a priest!

that's just one example of what a lousy job they did.

no details on his activities on behalf of the CIA (to be fair, I didn't see the beginning, so they may have mentioned some), and what I saw of the segment provided very little in the way of details regarding what evidence Cuba/Venezuela had of his involvement in the airplane bombing. they spent more time on Posada's denial of said charge than on why it's believed by many that he, indeed, was one of the masterminds behind the plot.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:33 PM
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4. correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't hear anything about Otto Reich's visit with Moscoso before the
pardon....or much of anything else you can find on these links

also google Ros-Lehtinen+Posada for her role in the pardon

http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=133&num=18973&printer=1

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=moscoso+posada&btnG=Search
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:02 PM
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6. Thanks for the links. I think it's useful to bear in mind that this was just a program segment,
Edited on Wed May-09-07 08:04 PM by scarletwoman
not a complete exposé. Please see my comment to your first post.

In any case, thank you for commenting!

sw

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:56 PM
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5. Well, they explicity DID say that he had been "involved" with the CIA.
I didn't think it was "whitewash" -- if they had wanted to downplay Posada, they wouldn't have done a story about him at all. How many people outside of DU and the left blogosphere even have clue about who he is?

Just the fact that the NewsHour even brought up the subject of Posada in the first place, and outlined the controversy around him, is quite interesting in itself, imho.

What I found particularily impressive is that they gave the Miami Herald reporter (whose name has presently slipped my mind -- but it was a familiar name to me) such a big piece of the segment to outline some of the accusations against Posada. He made some excellent points, imho.

I don't know how long it takes for NewsHour transcripts to go up, but I think this is one that would very worthwhile to look for.

sw
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:10 PM
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7. I guess what I'm saying is that what info they provided, like his CIA involvement,
isn't really anything but scratching the surface of that particular aspect of his life.

and the reporters' presence was what I was talking about in terms of extraneous information, which allowed them to ignore more important facets of the story, like, oh, say, Jeb Bush's involvement, not to mention that of other members of his family, shall we say.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jeb+bush+posada

there are other posters at DU who are far more knowledgeable of the real DEPTHS of Posada's vileness, as well as his close connections to US-funded terrorist actions

I have to go, but the links here are good starting points.

try Reich+Posada+CIA, too
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:12 PM
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9. I know it's counterpunch, but it cites records from CIA/FBI
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:17 PM
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10. Okay, but look at this from the point of view of someone who never even HEARD of Posada before now.
I'm not arguing your point at all -- I KNOW there's tons more shit about this guy that ought to come out.

All I'm saying is that the fact that he was brought up at ALL is interesting. Who knows, maybe it will pique some peoples' curiousity enough to send them in search of more information -- I see that as a good thing.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:08 PM
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14. You're right, of course, about simply getting the story out there, but so much
other, more pertinent info is available, and noise to signal ratio of the report was very high

also, the lasting impression left was that Posada strongly denied any involvement, and they left it at that, from what I saw

and I don't remember, as well, seeing anything about the influence of CANF
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:26 PM
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12. Democracy Now had a great session two days ago - new film coming
Edited on Wed May-09-07 08:28 PM by higher class
out. Interesting detail. When the Cubana aircraft was blown up (one or both of Bosch and Posada admitted doing it) - the news was buried in the back of the New York Times. Was it a full CIA job or a half CIA job? Full - MIHOP with CIA. Half - LIHOP by CIA.

It was the entire Olympic Fencing Team from Cuba and others. Protected all the way by insistence of Cuban-Americans and by the protection of both political parties of this country.

Authorized terrorists and terrorism. We sure know what we're doing when it comes to terrorism - don't we? But we bark big and pretend to be saints. And go on exporting democracy at the point of a gun or a bomb. We are hypocrites and the world should know that some of acknowledge it. It's in black and white in books and file drawers.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 08:32 PM
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13. What's the new film coming out?
"Authorized terrorists and terrorism. We know what we're doing when it comes to terrorism - don't we."


Well, hell -- the U.S. is the biggest baddest terrorist of them all! Chronology of American State Terrorism

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